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From: kilgallen@eisner.decus.org (Larry Kilgallen, LJK Software)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada
Subject: Re: A tool to count lines in Ada programs
Message-ID: <1995Feb27.232339.9254@eisner>
Date: 27 Feb 95 23:23:38 -0500
References: <3hnv6a$i96@vbohub.vbo.dec.com> <3hq8pb$ah7@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM>
  <3iad84$meq@butch.lmsc.lockheed.com>
Organization: DECUServe
Date: 1995-02-27T23:23:38-05:00
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In article <3iad84$meq@butch.lmsc.lockheed.com>, l107353@cliffy.lfwc.lockheed.com (Garlington KE) writes:
> Larry Kilgallen, LJK Software (kilgallen@eisner.decus.org) wrote:
> : I don't see how it is an exception.  On VAX/VMS and Alpha VMS, the
> : Unix-style tools are in the Posix subsystem.  It is inclusion of
> : those mechanisms (along with some ratings from X/Open) which caused
> : DEC marketing to confuse world with their "OpenVMS" terminology.
> 
> Installing Posix gives me access to Unix utilities like "wc" from the
> command line? Are you sure?
> 
> I thought installing Posix let me write/run programs that made Posix
> calls.

I do not know the details of which Unix commands are in the Posix standard,
but here is a sample from an unrelated posting.  In addition to the method
shown below, it is possible to configure particular user accounts so they
automatically get the Posix CLI (shell).

              <<< EISNER::$2$DIA7:[NOTES$HIVOL]SHOP_TALK.NOTE;1 >>>
                                 -< SHOP_TALK >-
================================================================================
Note 176.36             VMS - supported?  or going away?                36 of 36
EISNER::FORREST "Bob Forrest"                        18 lines  27-FEB-1995 22:03
          -< posix tar okay if you use a container area such as /tmp >-
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> VMS POSIX's
>    tar is useless, as it chokes the first time it encounters a file with
>    excess dots or other illegal characters in its name.
    
    $ posix
    psx> cd /tmp
    psx> mkdir temp
    psx> cd temp
    
      Then do tar to your heart's content.  I've unpacked tarfiles
    with the un*xed extra dot's with no problem.   So, I can't say that
    it's useless --- just annoying when you're trying to unpack non-VMS
    filenames into a VMS filename space :-(     
    
      Once you've unpacked them in a container area where the 'bizarre'
    filenames are allowed, you can change the filenames into the VMS
    allowed format and move the files where you really wanted them to go.