From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_DATE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fac41,7d7ee3c3e9e9e103 X-Google-Attributes: gidfac41,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,9f9e8bd17e4d4c4d X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,7d7ee3c3e9e9e103 X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1994-10-03 17:48:33 PST Newsgroups: comp.lang.eiffel,comp.object,comp.lang.ada Path: bga.com!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!cis.ohio-state.edu!news.sei.cmu.edu!ajpo.sei.cmu.edu!riehler From: riehler@ajpo.sei.cmu.edu (Richard Riehle) Subject: Re: Eiffel for DoD development? Message-ID: <1994Oct3.190144.23825@sei.cmu.edu> Keywords: Ada, Eiffel, Paige, Mandate, DoD Sender: netnews@sei.cmu.edu (Netnews) Organization: Software Engineering Institute References: <85BA3295BE6@annwfn.com> <36h4bp$k96@source.asset.com> Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 19:01:44 EDT Xref: bga.com comp.lang.eiffel:2156 comp.object:7022 comp.lang.ada:6420 Date: 1994-10-03T19:01:44-04:00 List-Id: In article <36h4bp$k96@source.asset.com> weisek@source.asset.com (Kevin Weise) writes: >> >>And yes, the 'Ada Police' *will* come and get in your face if you get >>caught trying to use something else, > >Would that it were true! I could give you a handful of programs that >are COMPLETELY ignoring the mandate and getting away with it. From: Richard Riehle We do not need the "Ada Police." We need sustained quality leadership. I am pleased to report that we have recently discovered more and more DoD sites who are paying attention to Secretary Paige's instructions. I just returned from an Ada training assignment with one of the important DoD computer programming installations and found a management that was both enthusiastic and committed to implementing DoD policy. Of real importance was the fact that the Director of this installation was leading the way. The middle managers knew what the Director required, and they were taking steps to make it happen. This site has PC's, Mainframes, and UNIX systems. They have a plan in place for moving ahead. The Director even announced his plans to follow Secretary Paige's advice to begin designing long-term projects using the new Ada 94 standard. If we can continue to develop this kind of leadership in key DoD organizations, there will be no need for recriminations. There will be no need to explore culpability. The Director of this installation actually pays attention to the direction from his top management. He is naive enough to believe that orders are orders. And he makes cure his subordinates understand his firm committment to following those orders. Give us a few more managers like this, and all the talk about "Ada Police" becomes irrelevant. I, too, like Eiffel. It is a beautifully designed language. But DoD policy is Ada. Let's stick to it. Richard Riehle AdaWorks Software Engineering Suite 27 2555 Park Boulevard Palo Alto, CA 94303 (415) 328-1815 FAX 328-1112 email: adaworks@netcom.com