From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.5-pre1 (2020-06-20) on ip-172-31-74-118.ec2.internal X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,LOTS_OF_MONEY autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.5-pre1 Date: 26 May 93 23:37:58 GMT From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!overload.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!usc!news.ser vice.uci.edu!unogate!genisco!power!milo@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (John DiCamillo) Subject: Re: Study shows Ada tools ten times more costly Message-ID: <1993May26.233758.26489@power.amasd.anatcp.rockwell.com> List-Id: shimeall@cs.nps.navy.mil (timothy shimeall) writes: >In article srctran@world.std.com (Gregory Aharonian ) writes: >> This comment to some extent supports the contention that the Ada >>Mandate, by sheltering the Ada tools companies from competition, is distortin g >>the marketplace and making use of Ada more expensive than other languages. >>(I assume in his study that for the most part, military software developers >>only are buying Ada tools). >Sorry, the data quoted does NOT support the conclusion Greg makes. >Sorry, the fact that Military software developers pay higher prices >for more thorough, capable and higher quality tools [perhaps targeted >at Ada] does NOT mean that all Ada tools are automatically more >expensive. Greg should be more careful of the conclusions he draws. Hey, put your money where you mouth is: Tool Platform Price --------------- ---------------- ------- ------- GNU C/C++ Compiler Sun/PC/etc. FREE GNU SOURCE Sun/PC/etc. FREE TI C30 C Compiler Sun-> 'C30 DSP ~ $5,00 0.00 TI C30 Library Source Sun-> 'C30 DSP ~ $5,000.00 Tartan Ada Compiler Sun-> 'C30 DSP ~ $36,0 00.00 Tartan AdA RTS Sourc Sun-> 'C30 DSP ~ $50,000.00 Now, I realize that not all Ada Compilers are prohibitively expensive. The point is that many are. Find me a platform where the Ada compiler is comparable in price to the C compiler! Vendors of non-mandated language (C/C++, Pascal, FORTRAN) compilers don't have the luxury of charging these prices because THEIR COMPETITION WILL EAT THEM ALIVE if they do! And if you think that DTP systems are the real source of DoD tool expenditures, think again: FrameMaker for Windows ~ $750.00 Interleaf for Sun 4 ~ $1,500.00 More expensive than WinWord, yes. Ten (or a hundred) *times* more, no. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ John DiCamillo | milo@power.amasd.anatcp.rockwell.com (MILO) |