From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.5-pre1 (2020-06-20) on ip-172-31-74-118.ec2.internal X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.5-pre1 Date: 26 May 93 15:14:46 GMT From: seas.gwu.edu!mfeldman@uunet.uu.net (Michael Feldman) Subject: Re: Emb.Sys.Prog survey shows Ada being used negligibly Message-ID: <1993May26.151446.22220@seas.gwu.edu> List-Id: In article <1993May25.211841.2711@saifr00.cfsat.honeywell.com> shanks@saifr00.c fsat.honeywell.com (Mark Shanks) writes: > [other stuff deleted] >... The SW language being taught >at any of the Academies has about as much impact on a prospective >student's decision to go there as their horoscope sign. And since >the applications outnumber vacancies by a couple orders of >magnitude, the Academies have little reason to worry about the >pools of prospective cadets drying up. Nice to hear from you on this. Take it from an 18-year member of an EECS faculty: language decisions have a lot to do with faculty preferences and politics. These decisions are typically made by committees; faculties fight fiercely to protect their curriculum-designing prerogatives, and I think most of you would prefer to keep it that way. (We all like interference from above _if_ the interference happens to be on our side...) What I hear from colleagues in the academy faculties is that the command structure there is somewhat tighter than in an arbitrary college, but somewhat looser than in the infantry. Somewhere in between, in that huge gray area between dictatorship and pure democracy is a decision- making process that designs a curriculum. No doubt the commandant of an academy could dictate choices at the detail level (like the choice of a coding language), but why on earth would he waste ammunition on that? My friends in the academies tell me that the ignorance of, and sometimes hostility to, Ada among students and faculty is not terribly different in the academies than elsewhere. The same reasons are given: lousy and overpriced tools compared to other languages, clunkiness of the type system, irrelevance of Ada to the rest of the world. In other words, the same half-truths we always flame at each other about, right here on the net. So what else is new? Mike Feldman ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Michael B. Feldman co-chair, SIGAda Education Committee Professor, Dept. of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science School of Engineering and Applied Science The George Washington University Washington, DC 20052 USA (202) 994-5253 (voice) (202) 994-5296 (fax) mfeldman@seas.gwu.edu (Internet) "The most important thing is to be sincere, and once you've learned how to fake that, you've got it made." -- old show-business adage ------------------------------------------------------------------------