From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,INVALID_DATE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,208c455e96be54d0,start X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,208c455e96be54d0,start X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1993-03-09 07:35:51 PST Xref: sparky comp.lang.ada:4520 comp.lang.c:22374 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c Path: sparky!uunet!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!darwin.sura.net!jabba.ess.harris.com!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!The-Star.honeywell.com!umn.edu!sctc.com!stachour From: stachour@sctc.com (Paul Stachour) Subject: March 1993 TwinCities SIGAda: Ada and/or C/C++ for Systems Programming Message-ID: <1993Mar9.142137.13625@sctc.com> Keywords: ada, c, c++, systems languages Organization: SCTC Distribution: MN Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1993 14:21:37 GMT Date: 1993-03-09T14:21:37+00:00 List-Id: Twin Cities SIGAda presents: Dueling Languages: Ada vs. C 7PM, Thursday March 11, 1993 Macalaster College, Olin Hall, Romm 200 St. Paul, Minnesota It`s a tag-teem event. The original Ada language--Ada 83--and the soon to be released update Ada 9x are squaring off against the ever popular C and its extension C++. Weighing in with supposedly notoriously slow, multi-megabyte compilers that produce inefficient code all in the name of safe programming, we have Ada 83. And right behind Ada is her sister, Ada 9x, who promises to add all the latest in object-oriented technology to the overwhelming set of capabilities provided by her big sister. And in the other corner, we have the C language ready to compile quickly into small, highly optimized, object code that blows up because it didn`t realize that the programmer should have used "*(unsigned *)" instead of "&". His companion, C++, is the popular state-of-the-art object oriented language that power programmers use to write programs that explode in different and more unique ways than C programs. Which language is better? What are the advantages of one language over the other? How can industry switch to Ada if it has so much invested in C already--even if Ada is a better language? Why doesn't the military wake up and realize that C/C++ is the wave of the future? Are the advantages touted by Ada-enthusiasts just academic snobbery? Are there real differences between the languages, or is it all just personal preference? Four language experts will discuss this topic in open debate. They will discuss why industry, the military, the academic communities and individual programmers prefer one language over the other. They may attempt to persuade each other to change their personal preferences. They may start a fist fight, because as geeky as it may seem, computer heads often get very emotional about languages. So, be prepared for hard-hitting remarks and possibly a little mud-slinging. But also be prepared for real dialogue on an issue that affects computing today and will affect computing into the next century. This meeting is open to the public. Twin Cities SIGAda is a special interest group of the Association for Computing Machinery (ACM). For more information regarding this meeting or membership in Twin Cities SIGAda contact Chad Broshar at (612)-572-6145. Directions to Macalaster: Go approximately 1 mile south of I-94 on Snelling Ave. Turn west on St. Clair (by the St. Clair Broiler). Go 1 block to Macalester Street. Turn north (driving along the football and soccer fields) and go until the road turns. Olin Hall is the building directly north of the field. You will enter on the second floor. You may park in the lot by the football field or in the one to the west of the building complex. -- Paul Stachour SCC, 1210 West County Rd E, Suite 100 stachour@sctc.com Arden Hills, MN 55112-3739 [1]-(612) 482-7467