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From: bruniau@cenatls.cena.dgac.fr (Christophe Bruniau)
Subject: Re: The Economist says: US Military software in 8th place
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Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1993 09:56:45 GMT
Date: 1993-03-23T09:56:45+00:00
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In article <SRCTRAN.93Mar23001245@world.std.com>, srctran@world.std.com (Gregory Aharonian) writes:
|> 
|>     The January 23rd edition of the Economist has an article on software
|> engineering with an interesting set of statistics.
....
|> 
|>     The article ends by reporting on results of analyzing 1000's of US and
|> foreign software projects by Caper Jones at Software Productivity Research
|> (whose software cost estimating tools are popular with the DoD), with the
|> following table presented:
|> 
|> 		TABLE OF SOFTWARE ENGINEERING PRODUCTIVITY (1991)
|> 
|> 	MIS SOFTWARE		SYSTEMS SOFTWARE	MILITARY SOFTWARE
|> 
|> 1	America			Japan			France
|> 2	France			America			Israel
|> 3	Britain			Germany			South Korea
|> 4	Canada			France			Britain
|> 5	Switzerland		Britain			Germany
|> 6	Germany			India			Sweden
|> 7	Japan			Taiwan			Italy
|> 8	Norway			South Korea		AMERICA
|> 9	Sweden			Holland			Brazil
|> 10	India			Sweden			Egypt
|> 
|>     Even accounting for a sampling problem in the survey, this is a truly
|> embarassing performance for the US military software community (I mean
|> being between Italy and Brazil only counts in lambada competitions).
...
|>     And since most of the non-mandated world associates Ada with military
|> software, those in management (many of whom read the Economist) are going
|> to assume, rightly or wrongly, that Ada is not worth getting into, and that
|> Ada 9X is more of the same.  If this table was not discussed at last week's
|> Ada conference, it only goes to show the gross indifference of the Mandated
|> world to anything else.

Ada is ALSO strongly associated with French military software.
The majority of military systems are developped with Ada in France.

It ALSO seems that an important part of Israelian software is developped in Ada.

I think you should better investigate for management problems, instead of
 always trying to make Ada responsible for all the software development
 problems.
As you see, like in the Air Traffic Control domain, there may be differences
 due to the way projects are managed, not only the tools given for production.
These ones are more involved in the global quality of the resulting product
(reliability, maintainability, and so on...).


Christophe BRUNIAU  bruniau@cenatls.cena.dgac.fr