From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_DATE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,8264dac98bc604d8 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1993-03-16 14:16:25 PST Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Path: sparky!uunet!gatech!howland.reston.ans.net!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!csc.ti.com!tilde.csc.ti.com!mksol!mccall From: mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539) Subject: Re: The actual quote from the Post AAS article Message-ID: <1993Mar16.210613.7208@mksol.dseg.ti.com> Organization: Texas Instruments Inc References: <1nuq3cINNk7@umbc7.umbc.edu> <8ceF1B1w165w@netlink.cts.com> <1993Mar15.035032.10779@seas.gwu.edu> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1993 21:06:13 GMT Date: 1993-03-16T21:06:13+00:00 List-Id: In <1993Mar15.035032.10779@seas.gwu.edu> mfeldman@seas.gwu.edu (Michael Feldman) writes: >In article <8ceF1B1w165w@netlink.cts.com> mshapiro@netlink.cts.com (Michael Shapiro) writes: >> >>This discussion does bring up one of the points I make from time to time, >>the observation is the only "high order" language around. All the others >>are "high level" languages. I have the feeling that this arbitrary >>change of nomenclature (seemingly traced back to the HOLWG) gives people >>the feeling that the DoD doesn't really want Ada to fit in with the >>community of programming languages. >> >I think it goes back farther than the HOLWG. DoD has _always_ used the term >"high-order" languages. DoD also referred to ADP (Automatic Data Processing) >in the old days when the rest of the US said EDP (Electronic Data Processing). >DoD also calls its TV dinners MRE's (Meals, Ready to Eat). I read that >they were distributing leftover MRE's from Desert Storm to homeless >shelters. If you can say with a straight face that an MRE is the same thing as a TV dinner, you've obviously never eaten either one or the other of them. Actually, their 'TV dinner' is called a 'traypack' (sp?), except that it's a TV dinner for 40 or so. MRE's aren't TV dinners; I would maintain that they are also not Ready to Eat, but that's another matter. >One can argue that it's weird that DoD has its own unique sublanguage >of American English; I think I'd agree. But I don't think that it has >anything in particular to do with Ada, or even with languages, and >pre-dates Ada. DoD didn't _change_ the terminology; they've _always_ >diverged from the rest of us. Perhaps they should change now, to agree >with the rest of the world, but that is a different argument. The argument that Ada tends to use different words for concepts that were already known in other parts of the industry by different names is fairly true, I would say, but I'm not sure that 'HOL' is an example of that particular 'newspeak'. -- "Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live in the real world." -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fred.McCall@dseg.ti.com - I don't speak for others and they don't speak for me.