From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_DATE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,2a8a4ec5c7e0aa5e X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1993-03-12 21:57:19 PST Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Path: sparky!uunet!mcsun!Germany.EU.net!gmd.de!ira.uka.de!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!darwin.sura.net!seas.gwu.edu!mfeldman From: mfeldman@seas.gwu.edu (Michael Feldman) Subject: Re: Marketing Ada Message-ID: <1993Mar12.234828.8231@seas.gwu.edu> Sender: news@seas.gwu.edu Organization: George Washington University References: <1993Mar11.221401.13805@seas.gwu.edu> <1993Mar12.140219.5705@mcc.com> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1993 23:48:28 GMT Date: 1993-03-12T23:48:28+00:00 List-Id: In article <1993Mar12.140219.5705@mcc.com> breland@mcc.com writes: [stuff deleted] > >To carry your analogy further, Mike, several vendors have elected to jump >on the new C++ bandwagon rather than propel Ada forward on its own merits. >So what we'll soon see are vendors with product lines supporting Ada, C, >AND C++. This reactive response is typical of defense contractors (not all >mind you), who tend to jump with the latest technology, leaving perfectly >good products behind. I fear such an environment will cause Ada to languish >in a pitiful pool of ignominy. Well, don't give up hope yet. So far, the vendors aren't really abandoning Ada, even if they are diversifying into C++, and most of them are. From the myopic business perspective we've been discussing here, it only makes good sense for them to go where the bucks are, especially if (as in Meridian's CASE case), they are just selling a tool they've licensed from somewhere else and didn't put resources into. I've used another imprefect analogy about the Mandate: it's protectionism and can be seen as analogous to Detroit's demand for protection from the Yellow Peril. Mr. Iacocca's company (and the others too, but he's he most vocally hypocritical) sells tremendous numbers of Asian cars, and US cars with Asian engines, even while he screams for protection. Assuming the Ada industry had something to do with the call for the Mandate (and I don't really know whether they did, but I guess it's a safe assumption), they wanted Congressional protection for Ada even while they diversify into C++. If the Mandate was written with _no_ industry prodding, I'll stand corrected. > >>There are signs of change, but - without slamming any one company >>or individual - I think our skepticism is well-founded and even >>constructive. > >How true. > Glad you agree. Let's keep letting them know, publicly and privately, our thoughts on this. Mike Feldman