From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.5-pre1 (2020-06-20) on ip-172-31-74-118.ec2.internal X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_20 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.5-pre1 Date: 21 Jun 93 16:37:33 GMT From: cis.ohio-state.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!darwin.sura.net!cs.ucf.edu!longwoo d!crigler@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (James Crigler) Subject: Re: Gauntlet thrown: OOPSLA program Message-ID: <1993Jun21.163733.12843@cs.ucf.edu> List-Id: Gregory Aharonian replied (in part) to my post: : : Jim, in the spirit of competitiveness that you are showing hear, let : ... I have not seen the OOPSLA material you have, : but when I do I will show you how to read between the lines. If you : call up all of the people on the program, and ask them where there : funding comes from, you will find DARPA funding C++/Smalltalk/Lisp : stuff ten to one over Ada in OOPSLA sponsorship. Thanks to such funding, : Ada-whatever is dead in the OOPSLA world. [ Partial history of OOP deleted.] I haven't had time to check the brochure more carefully, but below you will find the paragraphs from the page titled ``TOPICAL TRACKS.'' Since I'm vain and it's long here is my evaluation first: While the Ada is a very small part of the OOPS community, the community seems to me to be reaching out actively to us. We have largely been igoring OOP (<- flame bait). >>From the OOPSLA brochure (page 2, takes > 0.25 pages, with bright red heading) : Ada [title in red] With the coming of Ada 9X, object-orientation is becoming an increasingly hot topic in the Ada comunity. This year OOPSLA no only addresses this interest in general, but also includes a number of sepcifically Ada-oriented items. For example, there are two Ada 9X tutorials as well as a technical paper on Ada 9X by Tucker Taft. Also, look for the paper on ``Impacts of Object-Oriented Technologies'' by Mike Stark, whick is based largely on experiences with Ada and object-oriented methods at Goddard Space Flight Center over the last seven years. There is a Demonstration, ``Ada Paintball,'' that should be interesting. And, don't miss the panel on ``Developing Software for Large-Scale Reuse,'' which includes panelists from the Ada community. In fact, this panel is also to be held at the Washington Ada Symposium in June, and is intended to encourage greater interaction between Ada and the OOP communities in the important area, reuse. Even with Ada 83, the Ada community has always been pioneering in the areas of object-oriented analysis and design. OOPSLA '93 has a plethora of analysis and design tutorials and an entier session of technical papers on object-oriented analysis. So, whether you are a long time practitioner of object-oriented methods with Ada, or if you are just learning about object-oriented programming and Ada 9X, OOPSLA this year is more relevant than ever. Ed Seidewitz NASA Goddard Space Flight Center OOPSLA '93 Ada Special Interest Topic Chair [Bad puntuation from the brochure; misspellings mine.] Jim Crigler I believe in the unborn woman's right to choose. -- Author unknown