From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.5-pre1 (2020-06-20) on ip-172-31-74-118.ec2.internal X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.5-pre1 Date: 9 Jul 93 15:38:35 GMT From: magnesium.club.cc.cmu.edu!news.sei.cmu.edu!ajpo.sei.cmu.edu!wellerd@uunet .uu.net (David Weller) Subject: Re: Ada 9X at OOPSLA '93 (Was Re: Gauntlet thrown: OOPSLA program) Message-ID: <1993Jul9.113835.25485@sei.cmu.edu> List-Id: In article <1993Jul9.124103.15018@iplmail.orl.mmc.com> jcrigler@theopolis.orl.m mc.com (Jim Crigler) writes: >Who are the Ada vendors exhibiting at OOPSLA? So far, >one response, and that not an Ada vendor per se, but from a >workstation vendor who (correct me if I'm wrong) markets a >version of the Verdix compiler. But no response from [several names listed] I don't understand this. SGI, although a hardware vendor, will be demonstrating their Virtual Reality software written in Ada. In fact, they will be BRAGGING about that fact that it is in Ada. I would qualify this as an "Ada Exhibit Booth". You seemed to have pushed off SGI because they were "hardware", but you also listed: HP/Apollo, DEC, Concurrent, Convex, Cray, Encore, Harris, and IBM -- all hardware vendors. If they were there, would you discount them also? I think what the folks at the booth promote is more important than the name. Rational, for instance, was at OOPSLA last year, but never really mentioned the A-word as its sales pitch (they were selling ROSE and the Booch Components for C++). This year will be different, as they will also be touting their new Apex development environment. Finally, there is somewhat of an impression that OOPSLA is more of an academic conference among the well-established Ada vendors. This is, of course, the wrong impression. The real business winners will be the Ada vendors that are SMART ENOUGH to have a booth at OOPSLA this year. Many of the ones you've listed probably haven't caught on to the idea that the only way they can expand their business base it to demonstrate at conferences other than Ada love-ins, like WAdaS or Tri-Ada. Here is the list of Ada "promoters" that I know of so far at OOPSLA: Fastrak Training, Inc. Rational Silicon Graphics/Verdix Anybody want to add to it? Verdix. >Or Alsys. Or DEC. Or Alsys-nee-Telesoft. Or SD-Scicon. Or >Meridian. Or Tartan. Or TLD. Or ICC. Or DDC-I. Or Aitech. >Or Rational. Or SKY. Or Alliant. Or Concurrent. Or Convex. >Or Cray. Or E-Systems. Or Encore. Or Harris. Or HP. Or >HP/Apollo. Or 1BM. (Partial list of Ada vendors from the June >1993 Ada-Jovial newsletter. > >Jim Crigler -- -Comments above aren't neceessarily the opinion of the SEI, AJPO, or CAE-Link- David Weller | Have you hugged your DRAGOON lately? ----I'm the Ultimate International Masochist: I speak Ada AND Esperanto!-----