From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.5-pre1 (2020-06-20) on ip-172-31-74-118.ec2.internal X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.5-pre1 Date: 10 Aug 93 02:05:38 GMT From: cis.ohio-state.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!darwin.sura.net!seas.gwu.edu!mfeld man@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Michael Feldman) Subject: Re: Are 'best' universities being targeted Message-ID: <1993Aug10.020538.14104@seas.gwu.edu> List-Id: In article <244lpj$8t@schonberg.cs.nyu.edu> dewar@cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar) wri tes: >Well spoke John Biedler! In fact I think a lot of the "leading >universities" are turning out computer science students who not >only do not know anything about software engineering and construction >of large programs, but, much worse, they *think* they *do* know >something which makes them dangerous rather than useless. This is not >surprising given that the majority of the faculty members in such >departments know nothing about such things themselves. > You said it was OK to discuss Ada's role in all this. The thread started with a remark that the "leading universities" aren't doing much Ada. I opined that that didn't matter all that much; that it's quite OK for someone to change the definition of "best universities" to "those that teach good software engineering, in particular with Ada." This time, Robert, we are in violent agreement. Whew. Mike