From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.5-pre1 (2020-06-20) on ip-172-31-74-118.ec2.internal X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_50 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.5-pre1 Date: 8 Apr 93 16:02:22 GMT From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!ub!galileo.cc.roch ester.edu!rochester!rit!mjl@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Michael J Lutz) Subject: Re: Is General Kind the harbinger of doom for the Mandate? Message-ID: <1993Apr8.160222.8576@cs.rit.edu> List-Id: |> In <733834945.AA00788@f262.n620.z3.fidonet.org> tp923021@fir.canberra.edu.au (ben elliston) writes: |> |> >Organization: Compact Solutions, Canberra ACT Australia |> |> > > non-issue. If you find software engineers today who |> > > don't know Ada, |> > > it takes a week or two for them to learn the syntax. |> |> >What I would like to know is .. what classifies a "software |> >engineer"? I know people with computer science degrees who boldly |> >claim that they are "software engineers". |> |> >Whatever happened to being a Professional or Chartered Professional |> >Engineer with a degree in engineering!? Good question -- for traditional engineering. In the U.S., according to Engineering Times (1/93), P.E. licensing rates are: Civil 44 % Mechanical 23 % Electrical 9 % Chemical 8 % So, at least in the U.S., I'd suggest that the traditionalists get their acts together before preaching to software engineers. -- Mike Lutz Department of Computer Science Rochester Institute of Technology Rochester, NY 14623-0887 USA +1 (716) 475-2472 mjl@cs.rit.edu