From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.5-pre1 (2020-06-20) on ip-172-31-74-118.ec2.internal X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_05 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.5-pre1 Date: 28 Oct 92 00:13:06 GMT From: pattis@beaver.cs.washington.edu (Richard Pattis) Subject: Help me with Educational Use for Ada on Sparcs Message-ID: <1992Oct28.001306.21569@beaver.cs.washington.edu> List-Id: Is there anyone out there that works for SUN and is interested in Ada for educational use? I could use some help. I was contacted by an instructor at a small school who doesn't have great net access, and wants to teach Ada in CS1/CS2 using Sparcs. According to him, SUN will sell him the Ada compilers for about $1K per machine (he has 6-12) but that Ada is not considered an "Educational Product" so support costs an additional $1.6K per machine, which prices it out of his range. As co-chair of the SIGAda Education Committee, I promised him I'd look into it, but don't know where to start in the SUN hierarchy. I cannot even vouch for the veracity of his information, so I'll post any correction here. I already told him that Alsys sells SUN-4 compilers for $500 total, and put him in touch with the NYU AdaEd people about their free Unix interpreter. But for a variety of reasons, he is interested in dealing with SUN, if possible. I know Ada is considered an Educational Product at DEC and IBM. I'd appreciate help in tracking down the truth, and lobbying SUN if the truth is what I've been told. Rich Pattis FYI: The primary growth language in CS 1/CS 2 are Ada and Scheme. C/C++ looks to have a bright future (all the publishers are lining up books) but it is still unproven in these courses compared to Ada and Scheme (about 50 schools seem to use Ada/Scheme). Pascal is still dominant, but not growing. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Richard E. Pattis "Programming languages are like Department of Computer Science pizzas - they come in only "too" and Engineering sizes: too big and too small."