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From: seas.gwu.edu!mfeldman@uunet.uu.net  (Michael Feldman)
Subject: Re: C++ vs. Ada -- Is Ada loosing?
Date: 30 Dec 92 04:01:40 GMT	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1992Dec30.040140.10412@seas.gwu.edu> (raw)

In article <1992Dec29.161150.23301@nosc.mil> sampson@nosc.mil (Charles H. Samps
on) writes:
>
>     While I can't defend Alsys's specific prices without more information,
>one justification for the high cost of a compiler for a naked machine is
>that the vendor has had to develop an entire executive (rather than tying
>into an existing DOS or UNIX) and must amortize that cost over a small
>customer base.  Basically, the high cost is for the RTE and the cross-
>compiling utilities, not for the compiler itself.
>
This seems a weak justification. I'll agree that Ada may need a more
sophisticated RTE than C, but is it 25 times more so?

And the argument about a small customer base is self-fulfilling, as we
have discussed many times in this group. Perhaps a cross to a really
weird DoD-specific board might have a small base, but a standard OTS
80x86 package?

The back cover of IEEE Computer, Dec 92, has an ad from Computer Systems
Architects (CSA). They have a Transputer board you can add into a clone.
The education price for this board is $395, and it includes a parallel
C compiler and an occam2 compiler, _for the Transputer board_. I don't
know what the commercial price is, but it's probably <$1k. CSA
mentions that Ada is available. I assume this means Alsys, the only
compay supporting this configuration. Is the Transputer RTE _that_
much hairier than the occam one? Or parallel C? 

BTW - I bought one of these CSA babies at the Computer Science Conference
last year. It's a nice piece of work.

Mike Feldman
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School of Engineering and Applied Science
The George Washington University
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Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1992-12-30  4:01 Michael Feldman [this message]
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2021-02-01  5:43 C++ vs. Ada -- Is Ada loosing? Mark Bayern
1992-12-29 16:11 Charles H. Sampson
1992-12-28 15:23 Jim Withrow
1992-12-23 22:18 Michael Feldman
1992-12-21 12:56 Morris J. Zwick
1992-12-18 21:49 Robert I. Eachus
1992-12-21 16:11 ` Steve Rogers
1992-12-31 17:48   ` Mark Meyer
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1992-12-18 21:48 Michael Feldman
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1992-12-18  4:06 Richard A. O'Keefe
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