From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,INVALID_DATE, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Xref: utzoo comp.object:2742 comp.lang.ada:4972 Path: utzoo!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!usc!rpi!uupsi!grebyn!ted From: ted@grebyn.com (Ted Holden) Newsgroups: comp.object,comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: ada-c++ productivity Keywords: Looking for a few lazy men Message-ID: <1991Mar16.205228.4268@grebyn.com> Date: 16 Mar 91 20:52:28 GMT References: <11966@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> <1991Mar15.224626.27077@aero.org> <1991Mar16.000624.2513@leland.Stanford.EDU> Reply-To: ted@grebyn.UUCP (Ted Holden) Organization: Grebyn Timesharing, Vienna, VA, USA List-Id: Productivity of C++ users will vary according to skills, experience levels, tools available, such as the fabulous new Borland interface, and the task at hand. An idea of productivity in Ada projects may be had from the Feb. 11 issue of Federal Computer Week: "The GSA Board of Contract appeals issued a ruling last month that could effect how the military evaluates the cost effectiveness of Ada software. "The board upheld a decision by the Air Force to award a contract to a high-priced bidder based on a measure of productivity that equals three lines of Ada code per programmer per day. "A lower priced bidder, and others in the Ada community, said this standard is much too low. The protester in the case, DynaLantic Corp, offered an average of ten lines of code per day per programmer. "Three lines of code per day is absurd [as if ten wasn't], said Ralph Crafts, editor of a newsletter on Ada, and an expert witness for the protester..... Whether any realistic combination of events exists which could reduce Pascal, C, or C++ programmers to this level of productivity is anybody's guess; my own opinion is that most C programmers would require a bullet through the brain to be brought to such a level. The really comical thing about this is the way in which Ada gurus cite "productivity" as the main advantage of Ada. Apparently, they use the phrase in somewhat the same vein as Mr. Hussein uses terms like "moral victory". Ted Holden