From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.5-pre1 (2020-06-20) on ip-172-31-74-118.ec2.internal X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.0 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_40,FROM_ADDR_WS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.5-pre1 Date: 8 Jul 91 12:29:57 GMT From: europa.asd.contel.com!wlbr!lonex.radc.af.mil!hawksk@uunet.uu.net (Kennet h B. Hawks) Subject: Re: Is CM important? (was: Use pragma INLINE or not?) Message-ID: <1991Jul8.122957.6185@lonex.radc.af.mil> List-Id: In article <15645@encore.Encore.COM> jcallen@encore.Com (Jerry Callen) writes: > --Stuff Deleted-- > >Real programmers make mistakes: syntactic errors, letter transpositions, >even (horrors!) logic errors. I like to check in after every edit, so >all those errors are visible. So what? If it "taxes" your CM system to >have a lot of check-ins then you need a new CM system. > >Or would you rather see an afternoon of work go down the tubes because of >a power flicker? > >-- Jerry Callen > jcallen@encore.com Jerry - does your _formal_ CM really capture and baseline all your key strokes? If so, WOW is big brother watching you!!! There should be a vast difference between the formal CM baseline and the day to day output within an individual developers domain. What I was pointing out was the "hacker" tends to bash things out, say "OK, boss I'm done." Put their output in the master library, and then 'discover' they forgot some- thing important. When this happens frequently/consistantly I have to conclude they are not doing a complete and thorough job. The points you raise are indicative of the CM system itself, (both procedural and tool capability), not of the need and proper application of formal CM controls. Incidently, on projects that I have seen each keystroke captured into the formal CM system, the CM people soon outnumbered the developers and management had to abandon the approach. The power surge gotcha is handled by individual discipline, (how often do you save your work), and system management, (how often does the system create a journal file for you). Kenneth B. Hawks |\ /| "Fox Forever" Rome Laboratory, Griffiss AFB, NY ^o.o^ BSA hawksk@lonex.radc.af.mil =(v)= Disclaimer: There is no one else here who thinks like I do; therefore....