From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,INVALID_MSGID, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fac41,3f8570b76ae08638,start X-Google-Attributes: gidfac41,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,3f8570b76ae08638,start X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: andy@toolshed.com (Andrew Hunt) Subject: Re: With the Real Engineers please stand up. Date: 1998/01/06 Message-ID: <1976FDF266D22FFE.7FD1742621C103B5.BAC565EEF056ECC8@library-proxy.airnews.net>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 313325004 References: <34b73885.5453328@news.thegrid.net> X-Orig-Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Time: Tue Jan 6 10:17:53 1998 Organization: Toolshed Technologies Inc NNTP-Proxy-Relay: library.airnews.net Reply-To: andy@nospamtoolshed.com Newsgroups: comp.lang.eiffel,comp.lang.ada Date: 1998-01-06T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: On Tue, 06 Jan 1998 15:22:26 GMT, Trevor Longbow wrote: > QUESTION 1. > > I remember some study that identified this: that engineering outfits > typically operate at one of a set number of--I think it was 5 or > 6--levels of optimum culture. I don't remember the terminology. As I > > Does anyone know what it is I'm talking about--the study, the term, > the book? I believe you are referring to the Capability Maturity Model (CMM), check out www.sei.cmu.edu, the Software Engineering Institute at Carnegie Mellon. > 4. After the group reviews of all the demos we've seen, we should > then and only then make a decision and purchase a case tool. > The vendor will, of course, report a perfect fit in all cases. I think the emphasis should be on design skills, not case tools. Concentrate on good design at the whiteboard (maybe even one of the magic printing whiteboards), after you and your team have done that for a while you will be better able to determine your needs in a case tool. /\ndy (remove the nospam to reply) +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Andrew Hunt | Object Oriented | | Toolshed Technologies, Inc. | Software Design and Development | +-----------------------------------------------------------------+