From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!mx02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: function Is_Open (File : File_Type) return Boolean; :Text_io Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 17:20:34 +0100 Organization: cbb software GmbH Message-ID: <18wdhboc0r4aj$.1rj6n8wv3scfd.dlg@40tude.net> References: <87twpd2qlo.fsf@theworld.com> <1pj15r7pul7f1.15qgdyrc8k133$.dlg@40tude.net> <87pp0030c1.fsf@theworld.com> <135hiczk56x02.1xixcme8btbl4.dlg@40tude.net> <1dzlgoh4u2j7t$.1un3dfy0oeigd$.dlg@40tude.net> <190shqocxd87d$.1d68ghgqgbvfs$.dlg@40tude.net> <19ihs115mzocg$.20s63jo0q2gf.dlg@40tude.net> <2qwfwnugm5q5.ajan0n5midql$.dlg@40tude.net> Reply-To: mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de NNTP-Posting-Host: j6IQVb9uobzjXrpQLDU2rQ.user.speranza.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.15.1 X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:28140 Date: 2015-10-30T17:20:34+01:00 List-Id: On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 15:32:16 +0100, G.B. wrote: > On 30.10.15 09:39, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote: >> The concern is safe design. If [program] B has bugs it cannot be >> relied on to determine if it has them. > > Uhm, so what? Which kind of program is relied upon to determine > if it has bugs or not? A program that contains run-time checks for bugs. > OTOH, what if we can learn about potential bugs because we happen > to think that a failed expression has exactly that potential > for us? What kinds of answer do you expect? > Detecting a false positive needs to be assessed empirically. Positive of *what*? You first need a workable definition of a correct program, which you don't have and cannot have because of the reasons explained earlier. -- Regards, Dmitry A. Kazakov http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de