From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 2002:a6b:bec1:: with SMTP id o184-v6mr1455433iof.8.1527267665451; Fri, 25 May 2018 10:01:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a9d:5887:: with SMTP id x7-v6mr395688otg.14.1527267665208; Fri, 25 May 2018 10:01:05 -0700 (PDT) Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.uzoreto.com!newsreader5.netcologne.de!news.netcologne.de!peer01.ams1!peer.ams1.xlned.com!news.xlned.com!peer01.am4!peer.am4.highwinds-media.com!peer03.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feeder.usenetexpress.com!feeder-in1.iad1.usenetexpress.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!v8-v6no2306201itc.0!news-out.google.com!f20-v6ni2008itd.0!nntp.google.com!v8-v6no2306198itc.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Fri, 25 May 2018 10:01:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=47.185.233.194; posting-account=zwxLlwoAAAChLBU7oraRzNDnqQYkYbpo NNTP-Posting-Host: 47.185.233.194 References: <5c2523c1-9ea5-453c-b80e-9cb0dcd16de0@googlegroups.com> <293cf892-1320-49e6-a25f-a36ea098cd34@googlegroups.com> <294fa0cd-ec72-4f0f-8065-0a3d5e1087fa@googlegroups.com> <1048844682.548900254.621065.laguest-archeia.com@nntp.aioe.org> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <18ffd86d-f13e-46f4-b8f3-e8685e55a9d8@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: DragonEgg has been revived From: "Dan'l Miller" Injection-Date: Fri, 25 May 2018 17:01:05 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Received-Bytes: 4129 X-Received-Body-CRC: 3861509554 Xref: reader02.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:52679 Date: 2018-05-25T10:01:04-07:00 List-Id: On Friday, May 25, 2018 at 11:25:26 AM UTC-5, Jeffrey R. Carter wrote: > Don't feed the troll. How dare you! I am not troller-fishing. I am trying to determine the lice= nsing viability of my aforementioned GELI project to replace DragonEgg. It= is all highly on-topic and pursuant to productive goals in reaction to the= reasons that caused the de facto failure of=C2=A0DragonEgg. So far, I hav= e convinced myself yesterday to delete the nascent GitHub repository that I= had previously started to house the GELI project as a fork of GCC, at leas= t until I can figure out how to navigate the licensing with certainty. In = major-contribution replies in this thread, I am not only: 1)=C2=A0laying out the plan for a practical GELI alternative to GIGI so tha= t GELI feeds an LLVM backend in FSF=C2=A0GNAT for "llvm-"-prefixed targets = on the GNAT=C2=A0command line (in addition to GIGI feeding GENERIC/GIMPLE-R= TL for traditional-GCC targets on the GNAT=C2=A0command line), but (unless someone can dismantle the sequence of logic using normative ref= erences) also, now in later licensing-related replies, I am revealing some = likely reasons for: 2)=C2=A0why A# has quietly faded into lack-of-maintenance in recent years (= i.e., because Microsoft/Mono CLR doesn't enjoy the same overt mentioning as= a permitted IR in RLEv3.1 that JVM=C2=A0does in Target Code's "notwithstan= ding" clause in RLEv3.1, which in turns forces all generated CLR bytecode b= e an IR that in turn would be forced to be GPLv3-licensed); 3)=C2=A0why SPIR-V will never be written as a file from FSF=C2=A0GNAT (or i= f someone builds out that capability, then why the SPIR-V would be forced t= o be GPLv3-licensed); 4)=C2=A0why LLVM bitcode IR (e.g., to perhaps support Apple's foreseeable A= pp-Store submission requirements)=C2=A0will never be written as a file from= FSF=C2=A0GNAT (or if someone builds out that capability, then why the LLVM= bitcode IR would be forced to be GPLv3-licensed) and other related topics of recently-stated concern on c.l.a. Troller fish= ermen don't cast nets like that which contain pertinent useful lucidly-pres= ented information. Actual bona fide contributors do though.