From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,bf02c238a92156a3 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news1.google.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Windows Ada database support. Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 14:41:01 +0100 Message-ID: <18dr1ffwet9j1.12bqctwpzcem7$.dlg@40tude.net> References: <5e3e03a7.0411240431.7e037a4e@posting.google.com> <2004112420030750073%david@bottoncom> <11w2chxxtggn9.a442ecwtujd2$.dlg@40tude.net> <1jrbh30djhwuh$.cpwm02mv7d1d.dlg@40tude.net> <18u46qzjs6s8v.19927r9ay0kkh.dlg@40tude.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: individual.net YieawQX+6WfuUmisNdOlowQgPlWZP0hROcEHgtri1nVmLcAqo= User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.12.1 Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:6841 Date: 2004-12-08T14:41:01+01:00 List-Id: On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 11:19:02 +0000, Marius Amado Alves wrote: >> ... I would like to view it as a distributed system >> and get rid of the notion of DB altogether. Only persistent objects. No >> I/O, just memory-mappings. [ Clearly, in any short term perspective it is >> an utopia. ] (Kasakov) > > Utopia? There are currently persistent and prevalent object systems for > Ada and Java and probably other languages. I recall Prevayler for Java, > and at least one persistent system for Ada (isn't that actually by > yourself?). Yes. But I meant a distributed system. Object persistence alone is not enough for a great number of applications. Translated into DB terms: a distributed system is when you have stored procedures. Just persistence means that you read object(s), process them locally and then store back. > The problem is they force an object oriented model which as > has been argued does not always fit the application domain well. Why should it be any problem? Considering OO as an advanced ADT, I see no clear alternative. If you mean that established OO religion, well, that is not a technical issue. -- Regards, Dmitry A. Kazakov http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de