From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: a07f3367d7,3025dd6d917b499c X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,public,usenet X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Received: by 10.180.73.173 with SMTP id m13mr3120623wiv.4.1350352489025; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 18:54:49 -0700 (PDT) Path: q10ni65138159wif.0!nntp.google.com!feeder3.cambriumusenet.nl!feed.tweaknews.nl!85.12.40.130.MISMATCH!xlned.com!feeder1.xlned.com!border2.nntp.ams.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!news.panservice.it!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada, the best language with the not-so-best tool chain Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 09:31:12 +0200 Organization: cbb software GmbH Message-ID: <18ats2960nsvm$.kfufsnul13aq$.dlg@40tude.net> References: <38af7fb8-b0a4-4a31-87aa-b7b698cc89c3@googlegroups.com> <3ca0ffd0-1764-484b-8fab-17c0d2dd9463@googlegroups.com> <1f645050-cf4c-40bf-a797-9687b69e4a54@googlegroups.com> Reply-To: mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de NNTP-Posting-Host: FbOMkhMtVLVmu7IwBnt1tw.user.speranza.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.15.1 X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: 2012-10-08T09:31:12+02:00 List-Id: On Sun, 7 Oct 2012 13:21:52 -0700 (PDT), Patrick wrote: > Now I can see where you are coming from but 11 months ago I had no idea > that Ada, the language designed for embedded work, was not able to be > embedded via GCC and was largely confined to the desktop unless the > programmer or his/her company is quite wealthy. Remember that Ada was designed 80's. Embedded changed drastically since then. The "embedded" we do today is unthinkable without Ethernet and TCP/IP stack, tasking support, USB and flash support, high-resolution clock. That means a full-scale OS. To have a compiler for such a target is rather a minor problem. Ada run-time, tons of drivers for the OS, the loader are greater troubles. Embedded became bigger than one-man hobby project. If that didn't scare you, let you invested 10+ years in a board, which definitely will be out of stock in just 2-5 years to come? What then? It just does not make sense anymore. Sorry. Why don't you buy a single board x86 PC, which could be under 30 EUR, install Linux on it and spare most of the headache? -- Regards, Dmitry A. Kazakov http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de