From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,INVALID_DATE, MSGID_SHORT autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!uunet!munnari.oz.au!bruce!goanna!minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au!stan!saturn!doug From: doug@saturn.cs.swin.OZ.AU (Doug_Grant) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: A Pascal Subset of Ada (was: Why Ada is Failing Socially) Message-ID: <1822@stan.xx.swin.oz.au> Date: 26 Jun 91 07:03:20 GMT References: <1991Jun25.022849.18078@jpl-devvax.jpl.nasa.gov> <3811@sirius.ucs.adelaide.edu.au> Sender: news@stan.xx.swin.oz.au Distribution: comp.lang.ada List-Id: >|> One of the biggest mistakes of AJPO (or whoever made the decision) was to >|> disallow Ada subsets. I think they should have allowed ONE subset, >|> corresponding roughly to Pascal and including packages. We would have had >|> inexpensive & commercially useful compilers much earlier, & disposed of the >|> "Ada is huge" mindset. The issue is not whether subsets are allowed or not, but rather whether a compiler for the Pascal subset (whatever that is) could be used productively for a first course in Ada. Having taught Ada as a first language for 2 years now, to a diverse group of students of variable ability, I am convinced that a VERY CHEAP (or FREE) compiller for the Pascal subset that will run on the old 8088 machines that some of my students have (yes, without hard disks), would be worthwhile. I ussed to be, but now am not, sure that we need to cover (Ada \ Pascal) in the first course. Doug Grant(Swinburne Inst of Tech, Melbourne, Australia) (apologies for my mis-bahaving keyboard)