From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: a07f3367d7,e276c1ed16429c03 X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,public,usenet X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news3.google.com!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!194.25.134.126.MISMATCH!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newsfeed.arcor.de!newsspool3.arcor-online.net!news.arcor.de.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" Subject: Re: Ada is getting more popular! Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.15.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de Organization: cbb software GmbH References: <4cc4cb65$0$6985$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net> <4cc53ac7$0$6973$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 11:21:09 +0200 Message-ID: <17qexj67rbfv9$.1kzif0f52coh8.dlg@40tude.net> NNTP-Posting-Date: 25 Oct 2010 11:21:05 CEST NNTP-Posting-Host: 945d60cb.newsspool3.arcor-online.net X-Trace: DXC=5jRJ;_OCDhGFJ3]dH>I?oEMcF=Q^Z^V3H4Fo<]lROoRA8kF On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 10:07:35 +0200, Georg Bauhaus wrote: > On 10/25/10 9:52 AM, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote: >> On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 02:12:20 +0200, Georg Bauhaus wrote: > >>> As for existing companies offering compilers, you have mentioned >>> RRSoftware, there are more Ada companies, some of them offer >>> compilers at quite the usual prices. You'll have to ask, though. >> >> I doubt that there is a single company which earns anything from selling >> compilers. Those who sell or give compilers for free refund from somewhere >> else. > > Support, seminars, standard libraries on request, targeting > new platforms, and all forms of consultancy, as sources of > income,you mean? [harmful, at best useless] tool chains, subscriptions to bug fixing, projects unrelated to compiler design, and, yes, consultancy. At this point I can but resist to cite this story from J. R. Stern: "Once upon a time there was a shepherd tending his sheep at the edge of a country road. A brand new Jeep Grand Cherokee screeches to a halt next to him. The driver, a young man dressed in a Brioni suit, Cerrutti shoes, Ray-Ban glasses, Jovial Swiss wrist watch and a Bhs tie, gets out and asks the shepherd: "If I guess how many sheep you have, will you give me one of them?" The shepherd looks at the young man, then looks at the sprawling field of sheep and says: "Okay." The young man parks the SUV, connects his notebook and wireless modem, enters a NASA site, scans the ground using his GPS, opens a database and 60 Excel tables filled with algorithms, then prints a 150 page report on his high tech mini printer. He then turns to the shepherd and says: "You have exactly 1,586 sheep here." The shepherd answers: "That's correct, you can have your sheep." The young man takes one of the animals and puts it in the back of his vehicle. The shepherd looks at him and asks: "Now, if I guess your profession, will you pay me back in kind?" The young man answers: "Sure." The shepherd says: "You are a consultant." "Exactly! How did you know," asks the young man? "Very simple," answers the shepherd. "First, you came here without being called. Second, you charged me a fee to tell me something I already knew. Third, you do not understand anything about my business, and I'd really like to have my dog back." >> This model (also known from Socialism) is not sustainable, so we are >> observing the number of compilers for all languages declining, not just for >> Ada. > > Again, I'll welcome some interesting numbers. Want me run a study why wealth re-distribution creates poverty? (:-)) -- Regards, Dmitry A. Kazakov http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de