From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,4ffc4a297a9f10e0 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII Path: g2news2.google.com!news3.google.com!feeder1.cambriumusenet.nl!feed.tweaknews.nl!87.79.20.105.MISMATCH!news.netcologne.de!ramfeed1.netcologne.de!newsfeed.arcor.de!newsspool4.arcor-online.net!news.arcor.de.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" Subject: Re: Thoughts on AdaCore maintaining GCC-incompatible GNAT sources Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.15.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Reply-To: mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de Organization: cbb software GmbH References: <62c8c6c1-6578-4e61-b68a-2c192f34aa94@f20g2000prn.googlegroups.com> <1456fbc5-f951-4721-8575-0b73a492f275@r29g2000yqj.googlegroups.com> <80886810-73e0-4eea-88e3-6653afc2f45b@a28g2000prb.googlegroups.com> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 10:29:58 +0100 Message-ID: <16s3pyt9fvzw0.1tpjaer6keqof.dlg@40tude.net> NNTP-Posting-Date: 21 Jan 2011 10:29:58 CET NNTP-Posting-Host: 0147a54f.newsspool4.arcor-online.net X-Trace: DXC=G2aCZANAeKYV0Pe9PRnbJ\4IUK On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 08:19:25 +0100, J-P. Rosen wrote: > Le 20/01/2011 22:56, deadlyhead a �crit : >> I actually can't see any downside to AdaCore developing on a GCC >> branch. >> > The difficulty AdaCore has to face is that the public version of Gnat is > a damn good compiler. Even if a new version appears only once a year, > it's still better than some other proprietary compilers. > > Too many industrial users (not those who make rockets, but smaller > industries) simply use the public version, and it's hard to make them > pay when the public version is OK for their needs. > > Up to 3.15, there was only a single line of products, AdaCore was simply > selling support for the compiler. Apparently, they had to change that > business model for reasons. I think that AdaCore should probably modify their business model in order to have something between the FSF for 0 and Pro for 15K. Many small businesses and private persons would promptly buy Linux or Windows GNAT for $100-500 without support +, say, $25-50 per upgrade. This would not compete with GNAT Pro, because, my guess, Pro targets rather embedded and R-T solutions, e.g. VxWorks and standalone, or impose no additional costs. -- Regards, Dmitry A. Kazakov http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de