From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,6487f59679c615d8 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,UTF8 Received: by 10.68.219.66 with SMTP id pm2mr360302pbc.8.1336665548325; Thu, 10 May 2012 08:59:08 -0700 (PDT) X-FeedAbuse: http://nntpfeed.proxad.net/abuse.pl feeded by 88.191.131.2 Path: pr3ni10416pbb.0!nntp.google.com!news1.google.com!news4.google.com!feeder1-2.proxad.net!proxad.net!feeder2-2.proxad.net!nntpfeed.proxad.net!88.191.131.2.MISMATCH!news.chainon-marquant.org!gegeweb.org!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada Reference Manual 2012 in info format Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 17:58:58 +0200 Organization: cbb software GmbH Message-ID: <15wf9y8b3f4t6.1wjua8ezwit2u$.dlg@40tude.net> References: <82aa1ud0l3.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <20120509131736.63c924c8@vostro> <17qiwxc1yxhx7$.11tflala8jabh$.dlg@40tude.net> <4faa7790$0$9508$9b4e6d93@newsspool1.arcor-online.net> <1qod0a82z1gx4.6ncrd98m7cz3.dlg@40tude.net> <2nfobsn64ovj$.yo1ugseoo72.dlg@40tude.net> Reply-To: mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de NNTP-Posting-Host: KA5xyyPKkGZLxk9XJsNqLQ.user.speranza.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.15.1 X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: 2012-05-10T17:58:58+02:00 List-Id: On Thu, 10 May 2012 17:32:41 +0200, Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57) wrote: > Le Thu, 10 May 2012 17:02:30 +0200, Dmitry A. Kazakov > a écrit: >>> No? You don't need tool to check Ada source legality? >> >> Never used that thing. Ada compilers are validated. In doubt I rather ask >> our language lawyers here. > > What's a compiler if not a tool? No, it is not. Tools are used to assist a programmer, user, maintainer etc role player, in his work. As such tools are superfluous, non-functional. Compiler is absolutely necessary. If you want an analogy, XML parser is necessary when somebody was foolish enough to mandate use of XML. > Just forget about XML. If you don't like it, that's probably because you > never encountered a case where you need it (as much as because your seems > to be not aware of document authoring matters, So, the claim is that XML is good for authoring documents? Come on, give me a break! > as XML is not only used for hard‑data serialization) and it as a standard. Being standard does not make anything good. Standard is not a function. > Nevertheless, keep in mind that the word “standard” is emphasized a lot > here ;) Not prior to: "Ada is a programming language designed to support the construction of long-lived, highly reliable software systems." > And with the word ”standard” comes the words ”interoperability”. Interoperability between which parties, solving which problems? -- Regards, Dmitry A. Kazakov http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de