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From: Luke A. Guest <laguest@archeia.com>
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Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2016 08:34:14 +0000
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Wesley Pan <wesley.y.pan@gmail.com> wrote:

> 
> What Ada really needs is to be used in fancy/cool/fun applications (e.g. games). 

I couldn't agree more. SDLAda is a start there.

Better marketing for the same old arguments of safety critical software,
reduced development/maintenance cost, software integrity, etc (which are
ALL still very important and worth promoting) doesn't capture the interest
of the younger generation of software developers. It just turns them away,
if not put them to sleep. 

Yup. Need to get younger people excited but seems only a few of us actually
see this.

(Projects like Gnoga are definitely a good start..)
> 
> I have no doubt that Ada's exposure to the masses would have been greatly
> helped if people could make iOS apps with Ada when iPhones first became
> popular. Still no iOS apps in Ada (as far as I know)... =( Yes, you 

I've looked at this, Apple never sent their patches to mainline, they've
now gone LLVM. I have considered doing a port of the Darwin stuff to ARM,
don't hold your breath though.

can make Android apps, but are there any that will make the general mass go
"Wow!". Also, iOS is more popular...

Also gone LLVM.

> 
> I REALLY wish I could be more proactive on this topic, but life
> responsibilities and reality continue to prevent me from allocating
> enough time to contribute anything to the Ada community...Maybe one day?
> Sigh...for now, I am stuck using an inferior one letter named language in
> a company full of anti-Ada software engineers...='(
> 

Yes we need more.

We had a talk about this on irc the other day, the shitty state of Ada
often comes up. Flyx basically said one of the reasons he left Ada was
because of the lack of libs and other being that bindings take ages to
create. I can sympathise with that, it really does and you end up burning
out so you end up taking long breaks away.

Shame.