From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 2002:a02:4dc9:: with SMTP id t70mr5754590jad.0.1549450398952; Wed, 06 Feb 2019 02:53:18 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 2002:a05:6808:104:: with SMTP id b4mr38415oie.2.1549450398620; Wed, 06 Feb 2019 02:53:18 -0800 (PST) Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!feeder.usenetexpress.com!feeder-in1.iad1.usenetexpress.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!k10no115774itk.0!news-out.google.com!v71ni200ita.0!nntp.google.com!k10no115769itk.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2019 02:53:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=134.206.121.213; posting-account=O_NgcgoAAABs6pgCjroQBmOBL5ZZGPUc NNTP-Posting-Host: 134.206.121.213 References: <987a6ff2-32d0-45a0-b90a-be9fbf1ff47b@googlegroups.com> <048a6dce-ee26-4850-a1db-980fef58e8a2@googlegroups.com> <2qb5E.172675$592.78651@fx16.am4> <1af84a62-9236-403e-a87b-59f1a82cb3a5@googlegroups.com> <24o5E.235692$IF1.229991@fx03.am4> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <14b87b20-97e5-4c73-ae7b-982e5f29ce1d@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Yet another gnat bug From: George Shapovalov Injection-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2019 10:53:18 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Xref: reader01.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:55446 Date: 2019-02-06T02:53:18-08:00 List-Id: On Tuesday, February 5, 2019 at 9:37:17 PM UTC+1, Simon Wright wrote: > The AdaCore people working on FSF GCC are the same people working on the > 'upstream' product, which is why I've never thought of it like that; but > I see your point. Oh, so they do have people working on gcc directly? Nice! Sure, that makes total sense (for a company that essentially sells a gcc-ba= sed compiler). But unfortunately this rarely happens in reality. AdaCore seems like a real nice company! (A bit of praise never hearts, but = seriously, thanks to AdaCore people for nice work overall!) > > But to the credit of AdaCore, they react quickly - I already got a > > confirmation that they got it and will look into it.. >=20 > It helps if they know you! Maybe, but then I on;y saw them once in a person, and that likely were othe= r people..=20 But more importantly, this particular issue seems to be a general omission = affecting gnat universally, that would affect all kinds of users. I am just= puzzled how this thing was not triggered before by at least some users? Is= nobody fond of trying to lay out their types in the most abstract way poss= ible? That *does* force better design and ends up saving quite a bit of wor= k down the road (to the point of coding becoming really boring after the ge= neral structure is in and successfully compiled by gnat). Well, I guess peo= ple just always write "is abstract" even where "is null" would make more se= nse (or that not many people mix generics and OOP abstraction)..