From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,f15b862e11b575a4 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII Path: g2news2.google.com!news4.google.com!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!usenet-fr.net!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder2.enfer-du-nord.net!newsfeed.eweka.nl!feeder3.eweka.nl!81.171.88.15.MISMATCH!eweka.nl!lightspeed.eweka.nl!npeer.de.kpn-eurorings.net!npeer-ng0.de.kpn-eurorings.net!newsfeed.arcor.de!newsspool4.arcor-online.net!news.arcor.de.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" Subject: Re: Air traffic control system in Java Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.15.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Reply-To: mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de Organization: cbb software GmbH References: <4d6ffe16$0$17930$a8266bb1@postbox2.readnews.com> <4d711c62$0$27719$882e7ee2@usenet-news.net> <4d712326$0$27719$882e7ee2@usenet-news.net> <4d712b6a$0$17204$882e7ee2@usenet-news.net> <0b3daa32-8571-4a7f-a96f-cd876f4c4127@d12g2000prj.googlegroups.com> <4d712e64$0$17204$882e7ee2@usenet-news.net> <1l023eg1ilrni.xwge3tgrabol$.dlg@40tude.net> <882b38e2-0eaa-4b2e-944c-692eca47908f@q12g2000prb.googlegroups.com> <66858c7c-8d7a-47da-958c-c55bc9b49a26@d12g2000prj.googlegroups.com> Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 09:36:36 +0100 Message-ID: <1485u0syy5opt.1oq1gh4nkhqca$.dlg@40tude.net> NNTP-Posting-Date: 05 Mar 2011 09:36:37 CET NNTP-Posting-Host: b86593e9.newsspool3.arcor-online.net X-Trace: DXC=7>Igi?nFYmOj7E:bke<5HFMcF=Q^Z^V3H4Fo<]lROoRA8kF3_H^8o1ZLLP=o3iFM<8SI X-Complaints-To: usenet-abuse@arcor.de Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:18849 Date: 2011-03-05T09:36:37+01:00 List-Id: On Sat, 5 Mar 2011 00:14:30 -0800 (PST), Shark8 wrote: > On Mar 5, 1:07�am, "Dmitry A. Kazakov" > wrote: >> On Sat, 05 Mar 2011 08:15:17 +0100, Vinzent Hoefler wrote: >>> Shark8 wrote: >> >>>> Given that the VCL is basically an object-oriented wrapper of the >>>> Windows [graphics] API >> >>> And still, a lot of regular users are /not/ satisfied with what the VCL >>> offers. And it's already huge (thus, nothing I would put in a standards >>> document). >> >> Very true, we are such a user. VCL is a constant headache to use [to us]. >> >> (The problems begin when the customer sends you exact requirements on the >> UI's look and feel.) > > So, is the complaint you have not with th VCL per se but with the > demand that the look-and-feel be the same? The complaint is that libraries like VCL allows you quickly design a UI, but they never allow you to design *the* UI. This is a typical 80/20 case. You get 80% work done instantly, but never manage rest 20%. -- Regards, Dmitry A. Kazakov http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de