From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: Ada.Directories problems, a summary
Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 15:15:45 +0100
Date: 2009-01-01T15:15:50+01:00 [thread overview]
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On Thu, 1 Jan 2009 05:47:13 -0800 (PST), Ivan Levashew wrote:
> Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:
>
>> After experimenting with Ada.Directories I collected the issues I think
>> must be addressed to make Ada.Directories more usable:
>
> Ada RTL isn't enough (and wasn't ever) to do anything serious.
I hope running Ada programs qualifies as serious. (:-))
> I think a replacement library should be designed, with
> OS-specific and fallback (relying on Ada RTL) implementations.
Nope, Ada RTL must support design of platform-independent applications. Any
OS-specific library has no use in my eyes. I think there is a broad
understanding of this beyond Ada community. As an example consider GTK
introducing GIO library which tries to abstract the I/O OS layer. [GIO does
not work, but that is another story...]
> Your problems are not the only ones. For example, with Ada and
> GNAT RTL, I can't easily:
> Read word by word a file,
I don't see any problem with that. Ada.Streams.Stream_IO should do it.
> which is stored in a zip file,
> which itself is hosted on an FTP server,
> which is being accessed through a SOCKS5 proxy,
> which is being accessed through an HTTPS proxy (CONNECT method),
> which is being accessed directly.
All these are just not files. It is a UNIX-world aberration that everything
must be a file. Everything is nothing.
> Every part of Ada RTL and GNAT RTL is locked down to immediate
> filesystem/immediate network connectivity.
Which is good, because your list has no end. What about CORBA, DB
connections etc?
> I can't see any option other than another library.
The option is to limit it to files. Later on URI schemes could added in a
set of separate packages and so on.
--
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de
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Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-01-01 11:16 Ada.Directories problems, a summary Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-01-01 13:47 ` Ivan Levashew
2009-01-01 14:15 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2009-01-02 14:22 ` Ivan Levashew
2009-01-02 14:49 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-01-02 22:33 ` Colin Paul Gloster
2009-01-03 9:08 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-01-05 10:01 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2009-01-02 22:57 ` Randy Brukardt
2009-01-03 9:39 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-01-06 1:23 ` Randy Brukardt
2009-01-06 10:41 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-01-06 1:23 ` Randy Brukardt
2009-01-01 13:56 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-01-01 14:05 ` Colin Paul Gloster
2009-01-01 14:29 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-01-01 20:41 ` anon
2009-01-02 11:22 ` Colin Paul Gloster
2009-01-02 10:22 ` Georg Bauhaus
2009-01-02 11:09 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
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