From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feeder01.blueworldhosting.com!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Pascal Obry Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: a new language, designed for safety ! Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 20:31:07 +0200 Organization: Home - http://www.obry.net Message-ID: <1402425067.2520.258.camel@pascal.home.net> References: <1402308235.2520.153.camel@pascal.home.net> <85ioo9yukk.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <1718562611424090087.033223laguest-archeia.com@nntp.aioe.org> Reply-To: pascal@obry.net NNTP-Posting-Host: c+dikxHa9H/d9NZNszPzEw.user.speranza.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Mailer: Evolution 3.12.2-1 X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Xref: number.nntp.dca.giganews.com comp.lang.ada:186810 Date: 2014-06-10T20:31:07+02:00 List-Id: Le mardi 10 juin 2014 =C3=A0 10:48 +0000, Luke A.Guest a =C3=A9crit :=20 > Stephen Leake wrote: > > Pascal Obry writes: > >=20 > >> I would add to this thread that we do not need a new language for safe= ty > >> I think Ada can do that...=20 > >=20 > > Can anyone comment on why Apple didn't just use Ada? >=20 > NIH syndrome? They can't control it? Take your pick. Yes plus: - We hear again and again that a language is not all, you need libraries. But obviously when you come with a new langage you start with an empty bag! Everything must be recreated. - We hear that every new language is a revolution, it makes code cleaner, easier to maintain, easy to develop and with such power than you gain a lot in productivity... Well we should all be able to take such language and create a simulation for a complex system as a plane in one or two days I suppose. Why Apple choose a new language you asked? Yes probably to gain control of something... But this language, as some created in recent years, will just add more garbage into our systems for no added value :( With a bit of luck Swift will be a big failure and we will never cross a piece of code :) --=20 Pascal Obry / Magny Les Hameaux (78) The best way to travel is by means of imagination http://v2p.fr.eu.org http://www.obry.net gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-key F949BD3B