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"Jedi Tek'Unum" <jeditekunum@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Monday, January 26, 2015 at 9:37:34 AM UTC-6, David Botton wrote:
>>> So this was a bit of a rant - but nonetheless indicative of the
>>> situation.  The response - lack of - is always the same.
>> 
>> You make a couple of statements at the end of a thread 150+ messages
>> stating gripes about things you tried but haven't asked for help where
>> you got stuck and somehow that is "indicative of the situation", i.e.
>> that no one picks up on a troll?
> 
> The thread already had plenty of tangents and it was a few of those that got me here.
> 
>>> If the Ada community is not interested in broadly attacking the problem
>>> then nothing is going to change.

So, when something will have changed, it will be because the Ada community
will have been interested in broadly attacking the problem?

That would exclude numerous reasons for whatever future Ada could have,
wouldn't it?
By comparison, what community would have made Go useful for anything if
Google had not?

> The frustrating thing is that this situation has existed for 20+ years. 
> It seems the community lacks the critical mass required to converge on effective solutions.

Critical mass is seen near fads and big money, adoption of things that
change and transform, come and go.
PLs seem to develop differently: What is needed in order to sustain them is
simply business.
One more reason to appreciate independent Gnoga, e.g. as a way to provide
embedded systems with web views.
These views' supporting technology, i.e. web browsers, is ubiquitous
already.

I wish I had the time to write/vary a template compiler possibly different
from AWS's
that would allow integration of graphics design with Gnoga's way of
creating web views,
by identifying parts to the program via unique id attributes on elements.