From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD, FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,81bb2ce65a3240c3 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Received: by 10.68.197.193 with SMTP id iw1mr7481721pbc.0.1335485974107; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 17:19:34 -0700 (PDT) Path: r9ni102415pbh.0!nntp.google.com!news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: sbelmont700@gmail.com Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: What would you like in Ada202X? Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 17:18:02 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <13849842.838.1335485882969.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbai3> References: <3637793.35.1335340026327.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynfi5> NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.53.78.59 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: posting.google.com 1335485973 29104 127.0.0.1 (27 Apr 2012 00:19:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 00:19:33 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <3637793.35.1335340026327.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynfi5> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=206.53.78.59; posting-account=ShYTIAoAAABytvcS76ZrG9GdaV-nXYKy User-Agent: G2/1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: 2012-04-26T17:18:02-07:00 List-Id: +1 for proper constructors and destructors. Or, at the very least, a way t= o inhibit uninitialized private record types (type T is not null record ...= ?). Apart from finally providing safe initialization, it could always lead= the way for constant record elements... It would certainly be nice to include the requisite 'auto' and 'shared' acc= ess types in the standard library, but I suppose this would detract from th= e verisimilitude that access types are not needed for OOP (which is simply = just not the case). And despite being a minor issue, I really wish they would create a generic = formal type for pool-specific access types only (type T_Ptr is not access a= ll T?). It offends my delicate sensitivities that you can instantiate Unch= ecked_Deallocation for a general access type, because that's a compile time= error. And for the love of all that is holy, remove null procedures, or at least s= tandardize a pragma to do so. The fact that Ada automates the fudging and = faking of an operation that is not applicable for a type is anathema to eve= rything the language has stood for since 1983. A procedure Do_Something th= at does not do something is the most awful, unabashed example of bad design= that could possibly exist....and the language has constructs to expedite i= t?!