From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,f16a645029bb2cdd X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news4.google.com!news2.volia.net!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newsfeed.inode.at!news.hispeed.ch!linux2.krischik.com!news From: Martin Krischik Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: The GNU Ada compiler Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 19:56:48 +0100 Organization: Cablecom Newsserver Message-ID: <1372679.szUGUvjJ5V@linux1.krischik.com> References: <8352037.GvZVdQSXN4@linux1.krischik.com> <%jjpf.152581$dP1.510205@newsc.telia.net> <1587394.dEJr1xXLMr@linux1.krischik.com> <87ek49rvcy.fsf@ludovic-brenta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: 80-218-112-22.dclient.hispeed.ch Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Trace: news.hispeed.ch 1135020634 26680 80.218.112.22 (19 Dec 2005 19:30:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@hispeed.ch NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 19:30:34 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: KNode/0.10 Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:6935 Date: 2005-12-19T19:56:48+01:00 List-Id: Ludovic Brenta wrote: > Adrian Knoth writes: >> Martin Krischik wrote: >> >>>> Do your packages for Suse replace the Gnat packages that Suse >>>> provides, or can they coexist? >>> I never ever would replace the SuSE packages - you need them to >>> compile the kernel! >> >> I think this is not the answer to the same question which arose for >> me yesterday: if the distribution ships a gnat package, why would >> one use yours? > > Yes, and another question: do your packages include all the > distribution-specific patches, which are often necessary to compile > the kernel or glibc? No: cat /etc/profile.d/ada.bash if [[ (${USER} != root) && (-z ${_ada_bash_} ) ]] ; then I keep the original compiler for root to use. > I appreciate your efforts, but my gut feeling is that they are not > very productive; it would be more worthwhile, IMHO, to just join the > existing maintenance teams of GCC in your distribution of choice, and > provide patches to their build scripts or to the compiler itself as > necessary. This way, the default GNAT shipped by your distribution > would retain the ability to compile the kernel and glibc, and also > have good Ada and good multi-language support. Before SuSE 10 this was no option at all. Up until then SuSE used gcc 3.3.x. And we know that Ada in gcc only became usable *again* with 3.4.x. With SuSE 10 they jumped right to 4.0.2 - and a prerelease snapshot on top. I am unsure if 4.0.2 is a good release either since AdaCore used 3.4.x as basis for GNAT/Pro and GNAT/GPL. > I would like to add that, in 2001, I switched from Red Hat to Debian > for precisely two reasons: no Ada support in Red Hat 8, and no > possibility that I could influence them. And now, I do much more than > influence Ada in Debian :) But we would not want that Ada is only available to debian. That would leat to lots of FUD. Martin -- mailto://krischik@users.sourceforge.net Ada programming at: http://ada.krischik.com