From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,29d8139471e3f53e X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!q18g2000vbm.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Cyrille Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Preventing type extensions Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 05:55:39 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <135a7dc9-3943-45e4-884b-3cc6bce3db0a@q18g2000vbm.googlegroups.com> References: <87iq2bfenl.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de> <874odv9npv.fsf@ludovic-brenta.org> <87y6b7cedd.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de> <66a3704c-54f9-4f04-8860-aa12f516134b@t3g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> <87d3sib44t.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de> <134q4k2ly2pf4$.17nlv1q6q5ivo.dlg@40tude.net> <4c8dec8e$0$6990$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net> <8f6cceFrv2U1@mid.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.99.106.125 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Trace: posting.google.com 1284382540 7560 127.0.0.1 (13 Sep 2010 12:55:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 12:55:40 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: q18g2000vbm.googlegroups.com; posting-host=212.99.106.125; posting-account=bNhsVwoAAAB6XmNPWgYcbUm6npIwL2C4 User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; fr; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100824 Firefox/3.6.9 ( .NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe) Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:14038 Date: 2010-09-13T05:55:39-07:00 List-Id: > Some time ago on c.l.a. we had a long discussion on the goodness or > badness of re-dispatch, without coming to an agreement. I don't want to > repeat that discussion, just to point out, again, that Dmitry's opinion > is not universal. Far from it indeed. In order to follow the "simple dispatch" rule as described in OOTiA, one need to (almost) systematically re-dispatch. It seems to me that the vulnerabilities associated with not following the simple dispatch rule are significant: it is difficult to guarantee the integrity of the objects that are manipulated as soon as view conversions are used or some primitives ops are inherited while others are overridden. I understand the arguments in the other direction (against redispatch) but they do not look so compelling to me, especially in a context where LSP is understood and verified.