From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,80ae596d36288e8a X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII Path: g2news1.google.com!news3.google.com!feeder.news-service.com!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder1.enfer-du-nord.net!news.imp.ch!newsfeed.tiscali.ch!npeer.de.kpn-eurorings.net!npeer-ng0.de.kpn-eurorings.net!newsfeed.arcor.de!newsspool3.arcor-online.net!news.arcor.de.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" Subject: Re: Why no socket package in the standard ? Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.15.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Reply-To: mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de Organization: cbb software GmbH References: <872169864327910446.796089rmhost.bauhaus-maps.arcor.de@news.arcor.de> <9cb23235-8824-43f4-92aa-d2e8d10e7d8c@ct4g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> <4ddb5bd7$0$302$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> <4ddb81b8$0$7628$9b4e6d93@newsspool1.arcor-online.net> <87aaeban8a.fsf@ludovic-brenta.org> <8762ozahib.fsf@ludovic-brenta.org> <871uznaczz.fsf@ludovic-brenta.org> <015e3d6a-772a-41f8-a057-49c8b7bd80e1@w21g2000yqm.googlegroups.com> <4MednVYCXuUZQEHQRVn_vwA@giganews.com> <6d913128-402e-47cc-ae3e-273b65198507@n10g2000yqf.googlegroups.com> <0fa361b8-3e13-4656-9ca9-786dcc8aceef@h36g2000pro.googlegroups.com> <87ipsx8nem.fsf@ludovic-brenta.org> <82r57k74d8.fsf@stephe-leake.org> Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 14:21:12 +0200 Message-ID: <12bp94g7j8v7k.d1ivuuyvwofm$.dlg@40tude.net> NNTP-Posting-Date: 27 May 2011 14:21:12 CEST NNTP-Posting-Host: 04462baa.newsspool1.arcor-online.net X-Trace: DXC=MDGE5fIBk^1^8FBo0_81f>ic==]BZ:af>4Fo<]lROoR1<`=YMgDjhg2PN^nDf@kLK7[6LHn;2LCV>7enW;^6ZC`4\`mfM[68DC3a5BiG[c;0k; X-Complaints-To: usenet-abuse@arcor.de Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:19516 Date: 2011-05-27T14:21:12+02:00 List-Id: On Fri, 27 May 2011 07:46:43 -0400, Stephen Leake wrote: > Ludovic Brenta writes: > >> Adam Beneschan writes on comp.lang.ada: >>> On May 25, 9:36�am, Ludovic Brenta wrote: >>>> Yannick Duch�ne wrote on comp.lang.ada: >>>> >>>>> Peter C. Chapin a �crit: >>>>>> It also true that autoconf is a travesty... a throwback to a darker >>>>>> age when the POSIX standard did not exist (or at least was not >>>>>> widely implemented). >>>> >>>>> I do not know that much about Autoconf, so I can't really understand >>>>> what that mean and implies (someone else here also say a bit the >>>>> same as you too). >>>> >>>> Make was invented to overcome the deficiencies of C, notably the lack >>>> of modular programming and dependency management. >>>> >>>> Automake was invented to overcome the deficiencies of make, notably >>>> the poor maintainability of Makefiles. >>>> >>>> Configure was invented to overcome the deficiencies of early UNIX >>>> systems, notably the lack of conformance to POSIX, and their impact >>>> of the maintenance of Automake files. >>>> >>>> Autoconf was invented to overcome the deficiencies of Configure, >>>> notably the sheer size and horror of the configure scripts, which >>>> routinely consist of hundreds of thousands of lines of illegible >>>> POSIX shell code. >>> >>> I was going to ask what was the invention to overcome the deficiencies >>> of autoconf, but I think I figured it out ... rm -rf, right? >> >> Opinions differ but I'd tend to side with you :) > > No! Ada and gprbuild :) we finally got it right :) No, it was only one step forward. There are still mseinstall, rpmbuild, dpkg mess around there. -- Regards, Dmitry A. Kazakov http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de