From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,cbdf4b7efd0b03b5 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news3.google.com!news.germany.com!news.belwue.de!newsfeed.arcor.de!newsspool1.arcor-online.net!news.arcor.de.POSTED!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Decline? From: Georg Bauhaus In-Reply-To: References: <47d7de50$0$89175$157c6196@dreader1.cybercity.dk> <6401244f-3062-4f4a-8f19-4e71b6b1ff11@n75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <47d7f5ce$0$99023$157c6196@dreader2.cybercity.dk> <87tzjb8nfa.fsf@ludovic-brenta.org> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <1205437823.7957.61.camel@K72> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.1 Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:50:24 +0100 Organization: Arcor NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 Mar 2008 20:50:24 CET NNTP-Posting-Host: a0f6b7b1.newsspool2.arcor-online.net X-Trace: DXC=kRHUb6O3U6<_A0jCfgHO6>A9EHlD;3Yc24Fo<]lROoR18kFSDEfdW76PCY\c7>ejV8e?b4]KjX;a?cPT6JDUAih< X-Complaints-To: usenet-abuse@arcor.de Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:20353 Date: 2008-03-13T20:50:24+01:00 List-Id: On Thu, 2008-03-13 at 11:00 -0700, Gene wrote: > The Air Force Academy, also mentioned, has, I regret to say, gone over > to the dark side. Ignoring, for the moment, the inevitable force of "Hey, the party is over there, now!". What I still don't understand (from my remote point of view), is this: some of the attractiveness of Java appears to be connected with @Annotations and special VMs, these days. (I understand this creates opportunities for producing more guarantees, e.g. regarding lifetime or memory use, in many ways.) At least a number of features of this kind seem to correspond more or less directly with plain vanilla properties of the Ada language. We have two compilers producing J-code from Ada source. Using them, we'd just have to write Ada with no more int-based array indexing, no need to ..., ... OK. Can there be any doubt that language choice has statistically little to do with language influences on production and maintenance, but is really just a social, P.O.E.T.ical process? (Problem 1 (economy). Assign weights to P, O, E, and T totaling 1.0.) Hm. The language preference process has already found one declared end, reportedly for Ada. Let's see whether this Java one succeeds in becoming management's paradise. -- Georg