From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,703c4f68db81387d X-Google-Thread: 109fba,703c4f68db81387d X-Google-Thread: 115aec,703c4f68db81387d X-Google-Thread: f43e6,703c4f68db81387d X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,gid109fba,gid115aec,gidf43e6,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news3.google.com!news.glorb.com!feeder.enertel.nl!nntpfeed-01.ops.asmr-01.energis-idc.net!feeder.xsnews.nl!feeder.news-service.com!post.news-service.com!news1.surfino.com!not-for-mail Message-Id: <1202846.LJs3dvtTAG@linux1.krischik.com> From: Martin Krischik Subject: Re: Teaching new tricks to an old dog (C++ -->Ada) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c++,comp.realtime,comp.software-eng Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 10:18:47 +0200 References: <4229bad9$0$1019$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <1110032222.447846.167060@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <871xau9nlh.fsf@insalien.org> <3SjWd.103128$Vf.3969241@news000.worldonline.dk> <87r7iu85lf.fsf@insalien.org> <1110052142.832650@athnrd02> <1110284070.410136.205090@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <395uqaF5rhu2mU1@individual.net> <1111607633.301232.62490@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1111628011.160315.134740@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1111732101.995662.309040@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1111785256.454375.76600@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1369131.HYMxOlSdZt@linux1.krischik.com> <1111868963.494133.291150@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> User-Agent: KNode/0.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@surfino.com Organization: Surfino Gmbh NNTP-Posting-Host: 83.169.175.19 (83.169.175.19) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 11:40:06 +0200 X-Trace: 9226d42467f76f60c0ab612111 Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:10036 comp.lang.c++:47432 comp.realtime:1750 comp.software-eng:5372 Date: 2005-03-27T10:18:47+02:00 List-Id: Jerry Coffin wrote: > Martin Krischik wrote: > So far, I've found several references that mention generating C code, > some that don't specify the language, zero that mention having > generated Ada. IMHO: One of the greatest mistakes Ada using companies do is keep quite about it. It hurts the language a lot. Of course that means we never know. But I am not a dreamer: There will be more C then Ada out there. It's just the way it is. >> PS: I find the order they give in there drop-down box quite telling >> with SPARK-Ada at the top and Standart C at the bottom while at the >> same time all marketing texts say first C then Ada. I supports my >> suspicion that languages are more often chosen marketing effort >> then by actual facts. > > Even if we assume that all the references I've found that didn't > specify a programming language were using Ada, it still appears that C > is being used considerably more than Ada. I know :-( . > What I find telling is that somebody is so desparate to find _anything_ > to favor their position that they'll read the order of strings in a > listbox as really meaning something -- especially when they're > apparently just in alphabetical order! No, I was making a different point here. You are right: they are alphabetical and I have overlooked that. But the important part of my question was: but why didn't marketing use an alphabetical order when writing the web side? So my point stands: marketing effort or perhaps "coolness" has more to influence then actual technical facts. Which I find sad, but is true for as long I can think back for all sorts of technologies. With Regards Martin -- mailto://krischik@users.sourceforge.net Ada programming at: http://ada.krischik.com