From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,93a8020cc980d113 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news1.google.com!news.glorb.com!feed.xsnews.nl!border-1.ams.xsnews.nl!193.141.40.68.MISMATCH!npeer.de.kpn-eurorings.net!npeer1.kpn.DE!newsfeed.arcor.de!newsspool4.arcor-online.net!news.arcor.de.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" Subject: Re: What is wrong with Ada? Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.15.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de Organization: cbb software GmbH References: <1176150704.130880.248080@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> <461B52A6.20102@obry.net> <461BA892.3090002@obry.net> <82dgve.spf.ln@hunter.axlog.fr> <1176226291.589741.257600@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <4eaive.6p9.ln@hunter.axlog.fr> <1rbtw92apxpl1.1ednvo8v6oiq8$.dlg@40tude.net> <13tcswu59l28h.zxb26cabf9a0.dlg@40tude.net> <15k5b4j6za8ag.tpkuccinvzbd.dlg@40tude.net> <1jrh6o5yca0w.dqiviyjs01am.dlg@40tude.net> Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 10:39:15 +0200 Message-ID: <11yutnbe9zzzb.7d7szadj3908$.dlg@40tude.net> NNTP-Posting-Date: 24 Apr 2007 10:39:13 CEST NNTP-Posting-Host: cfe5b403.newsspool1.arcor-online.net X-Trace: DXC=hPT9UBGBg5BWDmlTRbh@=Iic==]BZ:afN4Fo<]lROoRAFl8W>\BH3YBZTPRh_I2OlJDNcfSJ;bb[EFCTGGVUmh?DLK[5LiR>kgBe=NMV50`>6I X-Complaints-To: usenet-abuse@arcor.de Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:15248 Date: 2007-04-24T10:39:13+02:00 List-Id: On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 20:39:28 GMT, Ray Blaak wrote: > "Dmitry A. Kazakov" writes: >> Any actually existing program can be expressed with single natural number. >> >> Moreover, all programs which were ever written, as well as all ones which >> *actually* will ever be, all together, again could be characterized by >> another natural number. > > While technically true, that characterization is not really useful in terms of > actually using such numbers, and does not really say anything at all about how > trivial such numbers/programs are. > In fact, the art of finding such numbers that do useful work for humans is > hard. People who know how to do that are called programmers. The context in which I used the word "trivial" was processing of infinite inputs. Infinity was the scale of triviality here, not human's ability to write, sell or use programs, whatever they might be. -- Regards, Dmitry A. Kazakov http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de