From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,37c1639cf6a3bbba X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!t8g2000prg.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Jerry Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: A scary story from the real world. Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 12:46:00 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <1194641160.406321.39310@t8g2000prg.googlegroups.com> References: <0Q0Zi.409$CT3.318@newsfet01.ams> NNTP-Posting-Host: 72.208.185.181 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Trace: posting.google.com 1194641161 12612 127.0.0.1 (9 Nov 2007 20:46:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 20:46:01 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <0Q0Zi.409$CT3.318@newsfet01.ams> User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X; en-US) AppleWebKit/522+ (KHTML, like Gecko, Safari/522) OmniWeb/v613.0.93354,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: t8g2000prg.googlegroups.com; posting-host=72.208.185.181; posting-account=ps2QrAMAAAA6_jCuRt2JEIpn5Otqf_w0 Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:18233 Date: 2007-11-09T12:46:00-08:00 List-Id: On Nov 9, 10:33 am, Per Sandberg wrote: > I was on a conference this week and that opened my eyes on the complete > ignorance of good compilers and languages in some the Reliable SW > communities. > http://www.issre2007.hv.se/extra/pod/ > There was lots of talks about on how to detect values out of bounds and > other problems that reasonable languages with type-system would find > probably at compile time. > > One Microsoft person said "we had lots of crashes in the system and the > cause of that was that the driver vendors did not look on the return > code from functions" > Then the blamed the poor programmer for not reading the secret "users > manual". > /Per Was Ada even mentioned? Jerry