From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD, FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,eb0daafec4ae827a X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news2.google.com!postnews.google.com!k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Maciej Sobczak Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: High-integrity networking Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 13:57:50 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <1191963470.320434.27750@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> References: <1191845623.383675.190820@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <_VwOi.141398$Fc.15278@attbi_s21> <1191935853.244559.87440@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 85.3.245.232 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Trace: posting.google.com 1191963470 16893 127.0.0.1 (9 Oct 2007 20:57:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 20:57:50 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X; en-US; rv:1.8.1.7) Gecko/20070914 Firefox/2.0.0.7,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com; posting-host=85.3.245.232; posting-account=ps2QrAMAAAA6_jCuRt2JEIpn5Otqf_w0 Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:2391 Date: 2007-10-09T13:57:50-07:00 List-Id: On 9 Pa , 19:37, "Jeffrey R. Carter" wrote: > I'd probably design such a system as a > distributed/Annex-E Ravenscar system, then try to ensure that the > non-Ada parts are equivalent to what an Ada implementation would be, and > that all communications are equivalent to what would take place in a > fully Annex-E implementation. > > > I have already found CSP (Communicating Sequential Processes), which > > is one possible approach, although what I have seen up to now leaves > > some "minor" details in the air, like the startup of the whole system. > > Ravenscar can afford this, because it's the language implementation > > that has to more or less transparently take care of all these issues, > > but heterogenous systems might need some more explicit handling. Which is, basically, what I imagined at the beginning - but I have an impression that some of the details might need to be more pronounced in the explicitly distributed system. I will repeat the startup issue with its inherent timing/ordering problems. I can also imagine supporting this process (especially the last part of your sentence above) with some model-driven generation of skeletons for different nodes. MDD with Ada/Ravenscar as a DSL for modeling communication patterns? Sounds like a nice subject for a paper. :-) -- Maciej Sobczak * www.msobczak.com * www.inspirel.com