From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,55f6e230b02eff2f X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news2.google.com!postnews.google.com!r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Matthew Heaney Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Containers - nontrivial element access Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 15:37:53 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <1191451073.734344.241860@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> References: <1191275759.184463.238350@n39g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1191343440.985588.143470@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1191440425.737861.140360@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <1191441364.453874.196900@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> <57wwez3fwodt$.yk7zz9dshtus.dlg@40tude.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.162.65.129 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Trace: posting.google.com 1191451074 9597 127.0.0.1 (3 Oct 2007 22:37:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 22:37:54 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <57wwez3fwodt$.yk7zz9dshtus.dlg@40tude.net> User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.7) Gecko/20070914 Firefox/2.0.0.7,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com; posting-host=66.162.65.129; posting-account=ps2QrAMAAAA6_jCuRt2JEIpn5Otqf_w0 Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:2281 Date: 2007-10-03T15:37:53-07:00 List-Id: On Oct 3, 4:21 pm, "Dmitry A. Kazakov" wrote: > > Egh, but vector is an array, see 1b in: I have no interest engaging in ontological debates. (I am a pragmatist, not a Platonist.) The vector container in the Ada standard container library (and I'm in a very good position to know!) is emphatically not a generalization of an Ada array. My reason for saying that the C++ vector *is* a like an array, and the Ada vector is *not* like an array, is that in C++ the vector is guaranteed to be implemented as contiguous array of memory. There is a separate container (a deque) that has time and space semantics different from a vector. The standard container library in Ada does not make such a distinction, and the standard vector container can be implemented using whatever mechanism suits the implementation. Hence my claim that the vector (in the Ada standard container library) is not a generalization of an array.