From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD, FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,dbcfe2b0a74da57e X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news2.google.com!postnews.google.com!g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Maciej Sobczak Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Inherited Methods and such Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 14:37:09 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <1190842629.099822.65770@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> References: <1190239986.762473.204290@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1rw45b3rmvmcr$.1df4wst5oknbl$.dlg@40tude.net> <1190296353.624737.150940@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com> <11m13st1f92kf$.m8s6y8mc8ebk.dlg@40tude.net> <1190321119.206313.65290@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> <1190408526.100291.265040@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <9ukf2wtqjs0q$.iuijmal4x56b$.dlg@40tude.net> <1190497995.498679.119190@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> <1mw3qju08q8uj.sgzht7ld9ydc$.dlg@40tude.net> <1190579805.451187.71140@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1i8ksr774bjbj.vpmnx3c0i9qz.dlg@40tude.net> <1190646125.024072.310020@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> <1r9s9v6pcjifl.vp4ktk0unpd1.dlg@40tude.net> <1190753631.240548.101820@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 85.3.107.199 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Trace: posting.google.com 1190842629 10761 127.0.0.1 (26 Sep 2007 21:37:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 21:37:09 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X; en-US; rv:1.8.1.6) Gecko/20070725 Firefox/2.0.0.6,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com; posting-host=85.3.107.199; posting-account=ps2QrAMAAAA6_jCuRt2JEIpn5Otqf_w0 Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:2149 Date: 2007-09-26T14:37:09-07:00 List-Id: On 26 Wrz, 14:21, Robert A Duff wrote: > Is this something fundamentally broken about constructors, > or is just another case of uninitialized variables? > I mean, there are lots of other ways to create uninit vars > in Ada... Yes, but for most of them it is easy to analyze the code and spot the problem. Most of them can be even found by the compiler itself, without involving any human-driven code review. Here the problem is in the interaction between base and derived type. The important feature of OO is that implementations (bodies) for T and S might not be available for review at the same time. If you look at T in isolation, it's clean. If you look at S in isolation (and this is the only thing you can do if you have only the interface ot T without the implementation), it's clean as well. Somehow together they don't work. The problem with this example is that in general it's impossible to analyze. -- Maciej Sobczak http://www.msobczak.com/