From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,f49c8f164340c377 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news2.google.com!postnews.google.com!g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: roderick.chapman@googlemail.com Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Current status of Ada? Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 07:58:35 -0000 Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <1188287915.362195.177670@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> References: <1187726191.464593.16480@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <1187850312.375316.57440@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.205.167.137 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Trace: posting.google.com 1188287915 31518 127.0.0.1 (28 Aug 2007 07:58:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 07:58:35 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.8.1.6) Gecko/20070725 Firefox/2.0.0.6,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) X-HTTP-Via: 1.1 bloxx:3128 (squid/2.5.STABLE11) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com; posting-host=217.205.167.137; posting-account=ps2QrAMAAAA6_jCuRt2JEIpn5Otqf_w0 Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:1569 Date: 2007-08-28T07:58:35+00:00 List-Id: >On Aug 26, 6:51 pm, wrote: A few responses to a subset of Richard's points: > There is no single strong advocate for Ada at present. There is no powerful > corporate sponsor as there is for Java. There is no major Ada project that > is visible to the larger community of software developers. You don't consider iFACTS to be a "major" Ada project? Perhaps you don't think it counts becuase it's based in the UK? > JSF is being developed in C++. I think we should wait for results from JSF before jumping to any conclusions... > When have we last seen any publicity about the value of Ada for some major project? See PR stuff on Praxis and AdaCore sites - iFACTS for a start. > At present, I am the last hold-out for > keeping > Ada in some small part of our curriculum. I would suggest keeping SPARK on the curriculum and just quietly forget to tell your colleagues that it's Ada... :-) I can think of one US government agency that's very interested in having faculty teach strong software engineering, static verification, formal methods and so on: the NSA. We have several such universities doing so right now, using SPARK as the primary vehicle. - Rod, SPARK Team