From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,df1a7f1c3c3bc77e X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,UTF8 Path: g2news1.google.com!news3.google.com!feeder3.cambrium.nl!feed.tweaknews.nl!newsfeed.kamp.net!newsfeed.kamp.net!newsfeed.freenet.de!news.teledata-fn.de!newsfeed.arcor.de!newsspool2.arcor-online.net!news.arcor.de.POSTED!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: An Ada Advice Inquiry From: Georg Bauhaus In-Reply-To: References: <463B7BBF.4080603@obry.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Organization: # Message-Id: <1178365901.15069.22.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.10.1 Date: Sat, 05 May 2007 13:51:42 +0200 NNTP-Posting-Date: 05 May 2007 13:51:42 CEST NNTP-Posting-Host: a57f6e5c.newsspool1.arcor-online.net X-Trace: DXC=CVoDkj\OX=_5TOT9_N5i\BH3YRPkW>d]IT[9\A:ho7QcPOVSA1edUgXeJOYI792cgnlo0] X-Complaints-To: usenet-abuse@arcor.de Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:15566 Date: 2007-05-05T13:51:42+02:00 List-Id: On Sat, 2007-05-05 at 11:59 +0200, Michael Bode wrote: > I have have bit of trouble illustrating this point. Let's say an Ada > tool set with which you can write cross platform CSS code for Linux > and Windows costs you 28_000=E2=82=AC. Then compare that to a > Java/C/C++/Python tool set which meets the same requirements. I'd like > to refer to some price lists in the 500=E2=82=AC to 1000=E2=82=AC range w= hich I would > call 'affordable'. My trouble is I can get all this for 0=E2=82=AC. Ada's competition doesn't exactly charge 0=E2=82=AC but a little to much more the moment you buy support. *But*, many Python or Java "buyers" don't buy support, because it isn't needed for a particular business case. (You prefer working a few hours around infrequent implementation bugs because cost(time) < cost(support)). Enough people have expressed they could live with a next to no support Ada solution. This matches the typical Java, C#, or Python case. A way out for Ada small shops might be to get organized=20 and join efforts to become selectable for Ada vendors on some suitable terms. Not sure if any of the vendors will like the idea. Would we have Java used everywhere if SUN charged the same sums from everyone that larger Ada customers can pay?