From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,93a8020cc980d113 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,UTF8 Path: g2news1.google.com!news3.google.com!proxad.net!213.200.89.82.MISMATCH!tiscali!newsfeed1.ip.tiscali.net!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newsfeed.hanau.net!noris.net!newsfeed.arcor.de!newsspool2.arcor-online.net!news.arcor.de.POSTED!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: What is wrong with Ada? From: Georg Bauhaus In-Reply-To: References: <1176150704.130880.248080@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> <1177160171.286985.167860@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <1177163425.459427.175280@b58g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1177460444.575339.317730@c18g2000prb.googlegroups.com> <1177499996.15508.17.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <1177507473.15508.39.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 15:24:33 +0200 Organization: Arcor NNTP-Posting-Date: 25 Apr 2007 15:18:59 CEST NNTP-Posting-Host: 2555bd7d.newsspool4.arcor-online.net X-Trace: DXC=2bZHba7lllkEB;5>eE0T7m4IUKfW6j[?3hN[W On Wed, 2007-04-25 at 13:54 +0200, Markus E Leypold wrote: > Georg Bauhaus writes: > > Maybe they don't publicly announce prices to make sure > > they can provide affordable solutions?=20 >=20 > The mirror side is: Charge what you can get. That is something > people^Wcustomers don't like. Or pay as little as possible, there are always two parties in a bargain. > http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2006/07/31.html (Another argument: Dell is a free loader because they don't invest in researching and developing the products they sell cheaply (computer tech), unlike other computer makers. Good or bad?) > http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/CamelsandRubberDuckies.html Some interesting speculations starting from Say's theorem and some non-empiricism. So what? Wouldn't it be more informative to observe what appears to be working, and how, in the Ada market? Unlike the C#/VB market, the Ada market has some potential of being competitive: there is more than one tool vendor, and the free-beer edition of GNAT is gone. > Just differentiate service contracts and license to use and > structure the service into different levels. I see just this happening. > If you mean they didn't charge for DOS -- you're wrong. Huh? MS software was both expensive and copyable. > I'm almost sure that your thoughts to > a certain extend agree with those of certain Ada vendors and the spin > -- "to make sure they can provide affordable solutions" -- is > certainly identical. >=20 > But that proves in my eyes exactly that they are absolutely clueless > about marketing and customer psychology=20 You mean, RR Software's compiler and tools, publicly priced slightly above MSVSStandard, only doesn't sell in the millions because it is more expensive than commercial entry VS? And you think that once Aonix offers a 249 =E2=82=AC compiler, the will start selling so many copies=20