From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD, FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,fc52c633190162e0 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: "kevin cline" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: why learn C? Date: 1 Apr 2007 21:29:03 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <1175488143.324741.283480@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> References: <1172144043.746296.44680@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> <1172161751.573558.24140@h3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <546qkhF1tr7dtU1@mid.individual.net> <5ZULh.48$YL5.40@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net> <1175215906.645110.217810@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> <1175230700.925143.28490@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1btkgzzj6zimp.acsq8mkzqz1w$.dlg@40tude.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 76.186.24.40 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Trace: posting.google.com 1175488144 15965 127.0.0.1 (2 Apr 2007 04:29:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 04:29:04 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <1btkgzzj6zimp.acsq8mkzqz1w$.dlg@40tude.net> User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.3) Gecko/20070309 Firefox/2.0.0.3,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com; posting-host=76.186.24.40; posting-account=Thx6EwwAAAAirqf96i7UdETSL0vfyj5f Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:14713 Date: 2007-04-01T21:29:03-07:00 List-Id: On Mar 30, 4:09 am, "Dmitry A. Kazakov" wrote: > On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 07:44:31 +0000 (UTC), Lutz Donnerhacke wrote: > > * kevin cline wrote: > >> "The big difference is that C++ templates allow type checking during > >> compile-time, so that no overhead neither in memory space nor in > >> runtime is incurred. In this respect, C++ templates ARE MORE POWERFUL > >> than Ada generics." > > > This is correct. C++-Templates itself are a Lisp dialect and Turing complete. > > One should be careful with such statements. In fact it is apples and > oranges, because whatever power templates might have, they are *not* > executed on the target machine. So what? The discussion was about compile-time type safety, and the point is that C++ templates, being Turing complete, allow more thorough compile type checking than is possible in Ada.