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From: "kevin  cline" <kevin.cline@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: why learn C?
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On Mar 20, 12:37 pm, <adawo...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> "Marc Boyer" <Marc.Bo...@enseeiht.yahoo.fr.invalid> wrote in message >
>
> It has always seemed rather odd to me that people who are as intelligent
> as programmers, rarely question the silliness of using tools such as C
> and C++ for serious work.
> They simply take for granted that the kind
> of errors that are so common in those languages are somehow akin to
> the laws of nature.

No, what actually happened is that expert C++ developers learned to
use C++ in such a way that those errors can not happen.  While it is
possible to write unsafe code in C++, it is also possible to adopt
coding guidelines that makes it easy to find and eliminate unsafe
code, and for most applications, that's quite good enough.  One reason
that experts choose C++ over Ada for performance-critical applications
because C++ templates allow compile-time type safety in high-level
code in a way that Ada generics do not.