From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD, FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,d4801f5d6baa249d X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news2.google.com!postnews.google.com!j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: JPWoodruff@gmail.com Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: F-22 Raptor software problem Date: 27 Feb 2007 21:09:45 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <1172639385.361444.188410@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com> References: <1172502110.098416.297700@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.4.18.74 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Trace: posting.google.com 1172639391 30964 127.0.0.1 (28 Feb 2007 05:09:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 05:09:51 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.0.10) Gecko/20070216 Firefox/1.5.0.10,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com; posting-host=24.4.18.74; posting-account=fJYhjA0AAADq5HS0Ommw0DzKlat-I76I Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:9592 Date: 2007-02-27T21:09:45-08:00 List-Id: On Feb 27, 6:33 am, "Bob Spooner" wrote: > "Aurele" wrote in message > > news:1172502110.098416.297700@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...> On Feb 26, 3:55 am, "Alex R. Mosteo" wrote: > > > Well, someone is likely to lose their job for improperly implementing > > the geoid and/or datum model! > > I would be inclined to think that the (derived) requirements were > incompletely specified and therefore didn't cover the case of what happens > when the nav system, while using GPS signals for time, crosses the date line > (or something like that.) -- Bob Something's bothering me about this case, and hasn't been mentioned yet. I think I'm correct in guessing that this aircraft has been in service for some time. If that's true, then almost certainly some F-22 has crossed the dateline without difficulty in the past. So it's a change in the software that started the failure. My own experience taught me it's difficult to assure integrity as a large system evolves. The system needs an effective configuration control board, and that team needs a really sound process. This is easier said than done. We can hope that practical "lessons learned" will be shared when this case has been analyzed.