From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,21960280f1d61e84 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news2.google.com!news3.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newsfeed01.chello.at!newsfeed.arcor.de!newsspool4.arcor-online.net!news.arcor.de.POSTED!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: in defense of GC From: Georg Bauhaus In-Reply-To: <7xy7n7uwyi.fsf@hod.lan.m-e-leypold.de> References: <1169531612.200010.153120@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <2tfy9vgph3.fsf@hod.lan.m-e-leypold.de> <1g7m33bys8v4p.6p9cpsh3k031$.dlg@40tude.net> <14hm72xd3b0bq$.axktv523vay8$.dlg@40tude.net> <4zwt33xm4b.fsf@hod.lan.m-e-leypold.de> <1j7neot6h1udi$.14vp2aos6z9l8.dlg@40tude.net> <1170838486.7656.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1170891160.30084.116.camel@localhost> <0xzm7puj9c.fsf@hod.lan.m-e-leypold.de> <1171030171.5352.39.camel@localhost.localdomain> <7xy7n7uwyi.fsf@hod.lan.m-e-leypold.de> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: # Message-ID: <1171054276.26732.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.1 Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 21:51:16 +0100 NNTP-Posting-Date: 09 Feb 2007 21:50:57 CET NNTP-Posting-Host: 47aa7725.newsspool4.arcor-online.net X-Trace: DXC=QR?o_ND3EUIgj[ZPFj7ehO4IUK On Fri, 2007-02-09 at 17:17 +0100, Markus E Leypold wrote: > Georg Bauhaus writes: > > > On Thu, 2007-02-08 at 09:49 +0100, Markus E Leypold wrote: > >> Georg Bauhaus writes: > >> > >> > On Wed, 2007-02-07 at 12:19 +0100, Markus E Leypold wrote: > >> >> Georg Bauhaus writes: > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > If you do this, perhaps you can find the time to use a, uh, stop-watch > >> >> > to measure the time it takes to produce, read, and change the programs? > >> >> > I.e., to technically manage significant software. The times will be > >> >> > important input for deciding whether or not static typing does indeed > >> >> > help in production. > >> >> > The only thing that relates to economic efficiency, if you want it :-) > >> >> > >> >> So the how long a beginner in a specific language takes to do > >> >> something is "important input for deciding ..." if compared to what, > >> >> exactly? > >> > > >> > I don't think Ray is a beginner in functional programming. > >> > >> >> So the how long a beginner in a specific language takes to do > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > >> > >> I should think I have been quite clear on that. > > > > If your question is asking how much time a beginner will need > > If that is you only question, fine. It wasn't mine. OK, I admit I have had some difficulty in parsing the beginner-sentence, I tried my best which is never enough. Does your question have to do with beginners at all?