From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,a326ac15995ef20e X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news2.google.com!postnews.google.com!i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: njs@pobox.com Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: Debian build scripts on a public Monotone server Date: 29 Sep 2006 17:03:02 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <1159574582.667087.127500@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <871wpzd7js.fsf@ludovic-brenta.org> <1159259938.13504.19.camel@localhost> <1159263129.848672.286190@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> <1159267398.13504.35.camel@localhost> <1159433540.824912.193400@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.159.194.130 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Trace: posting.google.com 1159574588 9445 127.0.0.1 (30 Sep 2006 00:03:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 00:03:08 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.0.4) Gecko/20060406 Firefox/1.5.0.4 (Debian-1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.4-1),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com; posting-host=66.159.194.130; posting-account=KBzYMg0AAADyIBsProrIrDf2NIzhUvb8 Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:6807 Date: 2006-09-29T17:03:02-07:00 List-Id: Brian May wrote: > Hmmm. Could get interesting. Consider the case of a user not using a > given computer account for several years, and suddenly they wake up > and do a sync operation. > > "Where did this fork from??? Everything in it is obsolete!" > > Just curious: Is it possible to somehow terminate a dead tree head > without merging it? You could merge it, and override the merge algorithm to say "resolve all conflicts in my favor". Basically you end up with a revision graph that looks like: a old \ / a (again) We don't quite have a convenient UI for that right now, but we're working on an overhaul of the UI for merging in general, and one of the things that should fall out is a natural way of expressing this. In general merging is much better than simply marking a head as dead, because it provides a path forward for any existing work that might be based off of that head. (I.e., maybe it wasn't a head at all, but because it's a distributed system you didn't know that.) In general, I am biased much more towards worrying about the data loss scenario, than the accidental data survival scenario :-). Bits, for all their infinite replicability, are tenuous, fragile things, and it's a lot easier to ignore something you've preserved, then to use something you've lost. So our first priority is making data immortal; overpopulation is an easier problem :-). I actually find the scenario of some bits being lost for years, then accidentally promiscuously replicated and saved for posterity to be heart-warming :-). That's just me, of course, and overall, yeah, there are ways that kind of scenario can be dealt with. -- Nathaniel